What are the Signs of Diode Degradation and Aging?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the signs of diode degradation and aging, exploring characteristics that may indicate a diode's lifespan and failure modes. Participants consider various factors affecting diode performance, including environmental conditions and application specifics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether diodes typically fail short or open, with differing opinions on the likelihood of each failure mode.
  • One participant suggests that as diodes age, the forward bias voltage and power loss per forward conduction amp may increase, indicating degradation.
  • Another participant argues that diodes do not age or wear out significantly when kept within specifications, citing various failure mechanisms such as lead separation and environmental breakdown.
  • Concerns are raised about the impact of thermal resistance and misuse, including overvoltage and overheating, on diode longevity.
  • A participant mentions anecdotal evidence regarding LEDs experiencing electrolysis, suggesting they may have a finite lifespan even under normal conditions.
  • One contributor shares observations of reduced current transfer ratios in optocouplers over long-term use, linking this to internal LED dimming in high-stress environments.
  • Another participant emphasizes that it is often the application and packaging that lead to diode failure rather than the diode itself, noting the ruggedness of stud diodes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the aging and failure mechanisms of diodes, with no consensus reached on the specific signs of degradation or the primary factors influencing diode lifespan.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions reference specific diode types and applications, highlighting the importance of context in assessing diode performance and longevity. Limitations in empirical data and anecdotal experiences are noted, emphasizing the variability in diode behavior across different conditions.

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Hi,
Does anyone know if there are such characteristics that are tell tale signs of diode degradation? I'm not sure if diodes fail short or open, I'd have thought open, but I'm not sure.
I was wondering if as a diode gets old the forward bias voltage might increase? Or the diode power loss per forward conduction Amp might increase? Something to indicate where the diode is on it's lifespan.

Cheers!
 
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tim9000 said:
Does anyone know if there are such characteristics that are tell tale signs of diode degradation?

good Q, I'm not sure

tim9000 said:
I'm not sure if diodes fail short or open, I'd have thought open, but I'm not sure.

I have seen both

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At the Diode level - they tend to be relatively large semiconductor structures and do not really age or wear out when kept within spec, I guess size really has nothing to do with it, I can not think of an wear-out mechanisms for any semiconductors. Failures may include, separation of the lead from the crystal, environmental breakdown causing migrating moisture into the diode, separation of the crystal from the case / housing causing increase in thermal resistance ( thermal failure) - and then just misuse over voltage, over current / over heating.

Some of these you can test for, some you can not. Thermal performance is pretty straightforward. IN all cases good baseline data and a consistent measurement technique are critical. Initial test should be "in place" and datasheet values are not so good to reference to a field measurement.

I work whit large devices, every case is different.
 
Windadct said:
At the Diode level - they tend to be relatively large semiconductor structures and do not really age or wear out when kept within spec, I guess size really has nothing to do with it, I can not think of an wear-out mechanisms for any semiconductors. Failures may include, separation of the lead from the crystal, environmental breakdown causing migrating moisture into the diode, separation of the crystal from the case / housing causing increase in thermal resistance ( thermal failure) - and then just misuse over voltage, over current / over heating.

Some of these you can test for, some you can not. Thermal performance is pretty straightforward. IN all cases good baseline data and a consistent measurement technique are critical. Initial test should be "in place" and datasheet values are not so good to reference to a field measurement.

I work whit large devices, every case is different.
Specifically relevant to me atm is the: https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjO3vuQh9fQAhWQNpQKHXvoAoUQFggmMAI&url=https://www.semikron.com/index.php?id=228&tx_smkdownloads_downloaddownload%5BnameWithArticlenumber%5D=SKN_130_02235290&usg=AFQjCNHHc0xdkxgexff4wuBK_SDIYKOZWQ&sig2=-Na6CSG0bOrvisAKDkYkCA

semikron 130 diode.

I understand what you're saying about the crystal being sensitive to physical trauma separating it from the metal leads, or getting moisture in the junction or contact surfaces. However, regarding the wearout mechanisms: a lighting bloke told me that they [LEDs] experience something like electrolysis; so would have a lifespan even within spec (admittedly this is anecdotal hear-say), but I didn't learn in that detail back doing semiconductor physics at uni. I want to got out and test these diodes forward bias voltage, leakage current and maybe breakdown voltage out in the field, to see which ones will need replacing, as a preventative maintenance.
These diodes might see a few amps through them for a few seconds every 15 minutes (maybe 6A peak), they're housed in boxes on big heat-sinks. And they do wear out (over a long period, I expect), I assume not just from fault conditions, which would be very rare; so generally they're used under-spec.
...it's all very mysterious to me, and I haven't had the experience to make my own observations over a long period, yet.Cheers
 
I have noticed several cases of CTR (current transfer ratio) reduction in 20+ year continuous service optocoupler devices to the point where electrical interfaces no longer work (repaired by simple opto chip replacement) due to what we suspect to be internal LED dimming in a industrial environment. Maybe it's the high stress and elevated temperature of this one application but the quoted lifetimes seem to be optimistic.
http://machinedesign.com/news/gauging-led-lifetime-optocouplers
http://www.vishay.com/docs/83741/83741.pdf

One device we investigated for bulk equipment ageing replacement was the obsolete HP R8060 with the modern equivalent ASSR-1611.
http://www.avagotech.com/products/o...lastic/other/solid-state-relay/assr-1611-001e
 
My point is that the "Diode" is not really what fails, wears out. It is the application and life of the packaging that leads to their death. Stud diode are very rugged, will be hard to wear one out in the traditional sense.

Have you had failures? A 130A stud diode will carry 6 amps, without a heatsink...also what is the application voltage, relative the Vrrm of the Diode.

The Semikron Handbook is very good, while a lot of discussion on lifetime / reliability for IGBT modules, the Stud diode reliability is not discussed, but some of the details on construction are interesting ( well to some people..)
 

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