Direction of oscillations of a polarised light wave

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The discussion revolves around the direction of oscillations in a polarized light wave, focusing on the nature of light as a transverse wave and its polarization characteristics.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the direction of light propagation and the oscillation of electric and magnetic fields, questioning common misconceptions about light waves. Some participants attempt to clarify the nature of transverse waves in the context of electromagnetic radiation.

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The discussion includes various perspectives on the nature of light and polarization, with participants providing insights based on Maxwell's equations and personal experiences with polarized light. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of these concepts without a clear consensus on the specific answer to the original question.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the relevant equations and the physical interpretation of light as a transverse wave, indicating a need for further clarification on these topics.

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Homework Statement
Please see below
Relevant Equations
not sure
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My answer is (C) because light can only travel in one direction after being polarised so the oscillation is also in the same direction as the direction of travel. Am I correct?

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songoku said:
Homework Statement: Please see below
Relevant Equations: not sure

Am I correct?
No. Light is a transversal wave. It has no longitudinal component.
 
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Comes from solving the Maxwell equations :
E and B are perpendicular to each other and to the direction of wave propagation, and are in phase with each other. A sinusoidal plane wave is one special solution of these equations. Maxwell's equations explain how these waves can physically propagate through space. The changing magnetic field creates a changing electric field through Faraday's law. In turn, that electric field creates a changing magnetic field through Maxwell's modification of Ampère's circuital law. This perpetual cycle allows these waves, now known as electromagnetic radiation, to move through space at velocity c.

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songoku said:
My answer is (C) because light can only travel in one direction
There is a tendency to imagine light waves like other transverse waves. Like water waves or transverse waves in a stretched string. In those cases there is physical motion perpendicular to the propagation direction.

Light is not like that. There is no physical motion from side to side. It is (as @BvU points out) the directions of the changing fields that are perpendicular to the direction of travel.
 
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Orodruin said:
No. Light is a transversal wave. It has no longitudinal component.
BvU said:
Comes from solving the Maxwell equations :


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jbriggs444 said:
There is a tendency to imagine light waves like other transverse waves. Like water waves or transverse waves in a stretched string. In those cases there is physical motion perpendicular to the propagation direction.

Light is not like that. There is no physical motion from side to side. It is (as @BvU points out) the directions of the changing fields that are perpendicular to the direction of travel.
I see, the answer must be (D).

Thank you very much for the help Orodruin, BvU, jbriggs444
 
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songoku said:
My answer is (C) because light can only travel in one direction after being polarised so the oscillation is also in the same direction as the direction of travel. Am I correct?
No. To add to what's already been said,...

EM waves are difficult to visualise but this may help (at the risk of being accused of oversimplification).

Imagine a plane polarised EM wave passing by a small test-charge (red dot in diagram). The wave’s oscillating E-field produces an oscillating force on the test-charge. The test-charge oscillates along a line; the line matches the directions of the wave’s E-field.

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For example, if the charge oscillates along the red line in diagram, then the E-field directions match the red line. There in no test-charge motion (therefore no component of the E-field) in the direction of propagation (z) because we’re dealing with a transverse wave.

Edit. The line lies in a plane (blue) perpendicular to the direction of propagation - and this is the plane referred to in answer option D.
 
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jbriggs444 said:
There is no physical motion from side to side.
Perhaps there is if you put an antenna in the path of the EM wave.
 
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Steve4Physics said:
No. To add to what's already been said,...

EM waves are difficult to visualise but this may help (at the risk of being accused of oversimplification).

Imagine a plane polarised EM wave passing by a small test-charge (red dot in diagram). The wave’s oscillating E-field produces an oscillating force on the test-charge. The test-charge oscillates along a line; the line matches the directions of the wave’s E-field.

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For example, if the charge oscillates along the red line in diagram, then the E-field directions match the red line. There in no test-charge motion (therefore no component of the E-field) in the direction of propagation (z) because we’re dealing with a transverse wave.

Edit. The line lies in a plane (blue) perpendicular to the direction of propagation - and this is the plane referred to in answer option D.
… and for this reason the sky at an angle of 90 degrees from the Sun is highly polarised!

This is the reason I look like a crazy person tilting my head from side to side when wearing polarized sunglasses on a sunny day.

(other fun exercises when wearing polarized sunglasses include, but are not limited to: looking at the glass panes of windows at different angles, looking at the LCD screens at bus stops - most are ”correctly” oriented so show really well with your head straight and completely black if you turn it by 90°)
 
Orodruin said:
This is the reason I look like a crazy person tilting my head from side to side when wearing polarized sunglasses on a sunny day.
You can eliminate the appearance of craziness and get more of an angle of rotation if you kept your head fixed, took your glasses off and turn them. That's what I do to verify the axis of polarization relative to the glasses. I turn the glasses and look for a minimum at obliquely reflected light off a linoleum floor which I know is (at least partially) polarized in the direction parallel to the floor.
 
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Q: How can you spot a physicist on a sunny day?
A: See @Orodruin's and @kuruman's Post ##8 and #9.
 
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kuruman said:
You can eliminate the appearance of craziness and get more of an angle of rotation if you kept your head fixed, took your glasses off and turn them. That's what I do to verify the axis of polarization relative to the glasses. I turn the glasses and look for a minimum at obliquely reflected light off a linoleum floor which I know is (at least partially) polarized in the direction parallel to the floor.
Turning your smartphone from portrait to landscape mode is also fun
 
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Orodruin said:
This is the reason I look like a crazy person tilting my head from side to side when wearing polarized sunglasses on a sunny day.
Well, it wouldn't be so bad if your dog would stop imitating you as you walk him... :wink:

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