Directional Derivative of Ricci Scalar: Lev-Civita Connection?

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The discussion centers on the conditions necessary for the directional derivative of the Ricci scalar along a Killing Vector Field, specifically questioning whether the Levi-Civita connection is required for the equation Kαα R = 0 to hold. Participants assert that the Lie derivative is more fundamental than the covariant derivative, suggesting that the Levi-Civita connection may not be necessary. However, the need for metric compatibility, expressed as ∇a gbc = 0, is highlighted as a critical condition, indicating that while various Riemannian connections exist, they do not guarantee the desired outcome without the Levi-Civita connection.

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I have a question about the directional derivative of the Ricci scalar along a Killing Vector Field. What conditions are necessary on the connection such that K^\alpha \nabla_\alpha R=0. Is the Levi-Civita connection necessary?
I'm not sure about it but I believe since the Lie derivative is more 'fundamental' than the covariant derivative it might be not necessary to have a Levi-Civita connection, but maybe I'm just conjecturing nonsense. Hope anyone can help me find an answer.
 
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I think you need ##\nabla_a g_{bc}=0##. If the Lie derivative of a field is zero then ##g_{ab}## is preserved on the integral curves. You do not need a connection for the Lie derivative.
 
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Hey Mentz114, thank for replying! Since you don't need a connection for the Lie derivative, and Killing Vector Fields depend upon the Lie derivative I suspect you don't need the Levi-Civita Connection, However for the derivation of such identity I used the Bianchi identities which rely on a torsion free connection. So I don't know wether you acually don't need it.
 
##\nabla_c g_{ab}=0## implies the LC connection.

I'm not sure if I'm answering your question ...
 
I think metric compatibility is a weaker condition, i.e. you can have various Riemannian connections without any being the LC. But that still does not guarantee that the derivative along the Killing of the curvature scalar is 0, or does it?
 

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