Discover the Algebraic Rule for Equivalent Expressions: A/as + 1 = 1/s + 1/a

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The discussion revolves around the algebraic equivalence of the expressions a/(as + 1) and 1/(s + 1/a). Participants seek clarification on the underlying algebraic rules that establish this equivalence, exploring different interpretations and manipulations of the expressions involved.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks for clarification on how the expression a/as + 1 is equivalent to 1/s + 1/a.
  • Another participant suggests that a/as simplifies to 1/s, seeking agreement on this point.
  • A participant points out the ambiguity in the original expression and proposes that it could be interpreted in multiple ways, including a/(as) + 1 or a/(as + 1).
  • There is a discussion about the need for a common denominator when adding fractions, leading to a conclusion that 1/s + 1/a does not match the original expression as interpreted by some participants.
  • Clarification is sought on how a/(as + 1) can be shown to be equivalent to 1/(s + 1/a), with one participant suggesting factoring a from the denominator.
  • One participant expresses understanding after a clarification, indicating that the equivalence is clearer to them now.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing interpretations of the original expressions, leading to some confusion. While there is agreement on certain simplifications, the overall equivalence remains contested, with no consensus reached on the interpretations of the expressions.

Contextual Notes

There are ambiguities in the original expressions due to missing parentheses, which affect the clarity of the discussion. Participants rely on different interpretations and manipulations of the algebraic terms, leading to unresolved questions about their equivalence.

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Hi guys,

please could someone tell me how this is equivalent and/or what the algebraic rule is?

how is this: a/as + 1

is equivalent to this: 1/s+1/a

Thanks a lot for your time and help
 
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So a/as=1/s do you agree?
 
tranceical said:
Hi guys,

please could someone tell me how this is equivalent and/or what the algebraic rule is?

how is this: a/as + 1

is equivalent to this: 1/s+1/a
First off, what you wrote is ambiguous. Taken literally, what you wrote is ##\frac{a}{a}s + 1 = s + 1##, if a ≠ 0.

Assuming that's not what you meant, it could be either
##\frac{a}{as} + 1##
or ##\frac{a}{as + 1}##

Starting with 1/s + 1/a, the rule for adding fractions says that we need a common denominator, so
1/s + 1/a = a/(as) + s/(as) = (a + s)/(as). This doesn't match any interpretations of what you wrote, so I don't see that what you started with is equal to 1/a + 1/s.
 
Thanks for the replies. Sorry for the ambiguity i should have used parentheses.

Mark44 - What i meant: how is a/(as+1) equivalent to 1/(s+(1/a))

Me_student - i understand a/as=1/s but i don't understand how the other
terms equal? i.e. how does the +1 term from a/(as+1) become 1/a?

many thanks
 
tranceical said:
Thanks for the replies. Sorry for the ambiguity i should have used parentheses.

Mark44 - What i meant: how is a/(as+1) equivalent to 1/(s+(1/a))
a/(as + 1) = a/[a(s + 1/a)]
Can you finish it and show that the last expression is equal to 1/(s + 1/a)?
What I did was factor a from both terms in the denominator.
tranceical said:
Me_student - i understand a/as=1/s but i don't understand how the other
terms equal? i.e. how does the +1 term from a/(as+1) become 1/a?
I explained that above.
 
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Thanks a lot Mark44 you've made that perfectly clear to me, i can see how the expressions equal now. Much appreciated :)
 

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