Discovering Newton's Dark Secret: Alchemy & The Philosopher's Stone

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around Isaac Newton's engagement with alchemy and the concept of the Philosopher's Stone, as highlighted in a Nova program titled "Newton's Dark Secret." Participants explore the implications of Newton's alchemical pursuits, the historical context of alchemy versus chemistry, and the perception of Newton's character and motivations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Historical

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that Newton's practice of alchemy was not a secret, as it was common knowledge during his time.
  • Others express skepticism about the portrayal of Newton's alchemical pursuits as a "dark secret," suggesting it was sensationalized for the program.
  • There are differing views on whether Newton believed in the literal existence of the Philosopher's Stone or if he was searching for undiscovered processes to transform elements.
  • Some participants question the rationale behind Newton's engagement with alchemy, suggesting he should have debunked it rather than practiced it.
  • Others argue that alchemy was a legitimate field of study at the time, yielding practical results, and that Newton's interest could be understood in that context.
  • Concerns are raised about the implications of Newton's mystical beliefs and how they might conflict with his scientific genius.
  • Participants note that Newton's alchemical writings are encoded and contain references to himself in unusual ways, raising questions about his mindset.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the characterization of Newton's alchemical practices, with some viewing it as a common aspect of his time and others seeing it as a troubling contradiction to his scientific achievements. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the nature of Newton's beliefs about alchemy and the Philosopher's Stone.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions about the historical context of alchemy, its relationship to early chemistry, and the motivations behind Newton's pursuits. Participants express varying levels of familiarity with Newton's life and work, which may influence their interpretations.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those exploring the history of science, the evolution of scientific thought, and the interplay between mysticism and early scientific inquiry.

  • #31
Integral said:
This is not a secret or surprising, I thought it was well known and understood by most.
It has never been mentioned in any physics text or even popular book on the subject I've ever read. This is, apparently, the first time anyone has tried to systematically go through these notebooks and "decode" all the terminology. He never published any alchemical stuff, and it's clear that, while it may have been known he was knowledgeable about it, he was certainly keeping his own research secret.
People of the era were very superstious as a rule, why would you expect Newton to be any different?
Because he was Newton.
 
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  • #32
Curious3141 said:
Newton was in a whole other league of cruelty. He evidently enjoyed interrogating and sentencing people to be hanged, drawn and quartered. I think he got 10 in total, all for counterfeiting.
This is disturbing.
 

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