Discrete Fourier Transform (DFT) Matching

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The discussion revolves around matching discrete-time signals with their corresponding Discrete Fourier Transforms (DFTs). Participants explore the characteristics of various signals, particularly focusing on Signals 7 and 8, and how they relate to their DFTs.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants attempt to identify the nature of Signals 7 and 8, questioning whether Signal 7 is an undersampled cosine. They discuss the implications of amplitude modulation on frequency representation and seek clarification on the DFT scale.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing insights about the characteristics of the signals and their DFTs. Some guidance has been provided regarding the interpretation of the DFT scale and the nature of the signals, but no consensus has been reached on the exact matches for Signals 7 and 8.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework guidelines, which may limit the depth of exploration and the provision of direct answers. There is an ongoing examination of assumptions regarding the signals and their DFTs.

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Homework Statement


Match each discrete-time signal with its DFT:

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I am mainly confused about Signal 7 and Signal 8.

Signal 1 is the discrete equivalent to a constant function, therefore its DFT is an impulse (Dirac ##\delta##), so it corresponds to DFT 3.

DFT of an impulse is a constant. Therefore Signal 6 corresponds to DFT 5.

Signal 2 is a sampled version of a full period of a cosine. So we expect ##X(1)## and ##X(-1)## to be nonzero (##X(-1)## really is ##X(N-1)=X(25)##). Therefore Signal 2 corresponds to DFT8.

By similar arguments, Signal 4 has exactly 2 cycles of a cosine and corresponds to DFT2. And Signal 3 has one and a half periods of a cosine, as we do not have complete periods we should expect spectral leakage, so signal 3 corresponds to DFT4 (the main peaks are around 1 & 2 plus negative frequencies). Likewise, Signal 5 corresponds to DFT7.

Here is a summary of the results so far:

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Only Signals 7 & 8 and DFT 6 & 1 are left:

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What do signals 7 and 8 represent? Is Signal 7 an undersampled cosine? How do we go about matching them with their corresponding DFTs?

Any explanation would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Could you please clarify what the scale of the DFT represents? Is it the the same order as the output of an FFT (from 0 to highest positive frequency, followed by lowest negative frequency back to 0)?

roam said:
What do signals 7 and 8 represent? Is Signal 7 an undersampled cosine? How do we go about matching them with their corresponding DFTs?
Both can be see as undersampled cosines, with Signal 7 being a cosine with a varying amplitude envelope.
 
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DrClaude said:
Could you please clarify what the scale of the DFT represents? Is it the the same order as the output of an FFT (from 0 to highest positive frequency, followed by lowest negative frequency back to 0)?

It is similar to the spectrum of an FFT which is not fftshifted. The zero-frequency component (DC) is the first element (##r=0##). Then it is the positive frequencies, but I think it is lowest to largest, followed by negative frequencies.

Both can be see as undersampled cosines, with Signal 7 being a cosine with a varying amplitude envelope.

Yes, this is right. Any ideas how to identify the DFT for each signal?
 
roam said:
Any ideas how to identify the DFT for each signal?
What case would correspond to a single frequency?
 
DrClaude said:
What case would correspond to a single frequency?

Is it Signal 8?

So, the spectrum of Signal 8 is DFT6? What would be a good explanation? Signal 7 looks like at least two cosine waves being heterodyned (i.e. a cosine wave contained in a lower frequency cosine envelope).
 
roam said:
So, the spectrum of Signal 8 is DFT6? What would be a good explanation? Signal 7 looks like at least two cosine waves being heterodyned (i.e. a cosine wave contained in a lower frequency cosine envelope).
That's basically it. Signal 8 corresponds to a pure cosine sampled twice per oscillation period, and therefore has a single frequency. The effect of changing the envelop (modulating the amplitude) is a spreading out of the frequency, as given by DFT1 (you can see it as an "uncertainty" in the frequency due to the limited time, or pulse nature, of the signal, or due to the fact that the signal is similar to a beat coming from overlapping signals of similar frequencies).
 
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