Discrete Math Course: Conveying Material & Textbook Prep

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenges faced by students in a discrete math course, particularly regarding the effectiveness of the professor's teaching style and the adequacy of the textbook. Participants express concerns about understanding proofs and the expectations for posting questions on a forum without prior attempts at solutions.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses enjoyment of the discrete math material but frustration with the professor's convoluted teaching style and the textbook's lack of preparation for chapter questions.
  • Another participant suggests that posting a question without a prior attempt is acceptable, emphasizing the importance of showing willingness to engage with the problem.
  • A later reply clarifies that an attempt at a solution does not need to be complete, and offers various ways to demonstrate effort, such as listing relevant theorems or working through simpler cases.
  • Some participants mention a desire for guidance rather than direct answers when asking questions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that showing some effort in problem-solving is important, but there is no consensus on the specific expectations for posting questions without prior attempts.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight varying interpretations of what constitutes an acceptable attempt at a solution, and there are differing views on the adequacy of the professor's teaching and the textbook's effectiveness.

Who May Find This Useful

Students taking discrete math courses, educators seeking insights into student experiences, and individuals interested in academic support forums.

Bashyboy
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Hello,

This semester I am taking my first discrete math course. I am thoroughly enjoying the material, but am dreading the professor and textbook. The consensus amongst my classmates is that the professor is excessively convoluted in his conveyance of the material, and that the textbook does not prepare you for the questions at the end of the chapters. Most of the questions that involve proofs require that I follow along with the solution, but I am generally able to understand what the author is doing in each step. My question is, if I don't understand a problem, that is, if I don't even faintest clue where to begin, and I can't follow the solution from the textbook, would I get an infraction for posting the problem on physicsforums without having written anything in the "attempt at a solution" section?
 
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I've been thinking, did I perhaps post this in the wrong area?
 
Also, if I asked a question, I wouldn't expect someone to just give me the answer, but to prod me in the right direction.
 
No i don't see a problem with that, in fact, i am also in discrete "structures" right now and i have asked questions about it in the homework help...i would try to attempt the solution but even if you absolutely have no idea where to start i would still post it...

If you would like to work together on a discrete problem just PM me anytime...
 
Bashyboy said:
Hello,

This semester I am taking my first discrete math course. I am thoroughly enjoying the material, but am dreading the professor and textbook. The consensus amongst my classmates is that the professor is excessively convoluted in his conveyance of the material, and that the textbook does not prepare you for the questions at the end of the chapters. Most of the questions that involve proofs require that I follow along with the solution, but I am generally able to understand what the author is doing in each step. My question is, if I don't understand a problem, that is, if I don't even faintest clue where to begin, and I can't follow the solution from the textbook, would I get an infraction for posting the problem on physicsforums without having written anything in the "attempt at a solution" section?

Not writing anything in the "attempt of solution" will not be allowed. But you seem to think that you need to provide half the solution already if you want to get help. This is far from true: all we want is to see that you're willing to attempt the problem yourself.

An attempt can consist out of many things, for example:

  • List relevant theorems and examples from your textbook that sound similar.
  • Work out the solution in easy/extreme cases. For example, if it wants you to count how many ways we can arrange n balls, try to work out the solution for n=1,2,3,4.
  • Draw a picture (if relevant)
  • Identify knowns and unknowns.
  • Give solutions that you know are flawed and explain why they are flawed.
  • etc.
 

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