Discrete Math implications by rules of inference

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The discussion revolves around the implications of rules of inference in discrete mathematics, specifically focusing on a logical argument involving premises and deductions.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster questions the validity of reusing the premise 'p' in their proof, wondering if it gets "used up" after being applied. They also seek clarification on the reuse of 'q' after it has been deduced.

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Some participants provide clarification on the nature of premises in logical proofs, indicating that premises remain valid throughout the proof. There is an exploration of the distinction between premises and hypotheses in conditional proofs, with some agreement on the validity of reusing both 'p' and 'q'.

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The discussion touches on the rules of inference and the structure of logical proofs, particularly in relation to premises and deductions. There is an emphasis on understanding the conditions under which statements can be reused in proofs.

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Homework Statement


p→(q→r)
¬q →¬p
p
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∴r

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My book gives the following solution:

(1) p - premise
(2) ¬q→¬p premise
(3) q, (1) and (2) and rule of detachment,
(4) p and q, law of conjuctive addition
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Can anyone explain to me why you can use p on step 4?
Since in step 3, you are using step 1 and step 2, and p comes from step 1

Does the p not get "used" up? I don't understand why you're able to use it again.
 
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No the p does not get used up. Since it is a given assumption rather than a hypothesis used to open a conditional proof, it is valid throughout the proof. The only case where statements get 'used up' is where they are made in a conditional proof, in which case they are not valid outside the conditional proof. Since there are no conditional proofs used in what you wrote above, that does not happen here.
 
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andrewkirk said:
No the p does not get used up. Since it is a given assumption rather than a hypothesis used to open a conditional proof, it is valid throughout the proof. The only case where statements get 'used up' is where they are made in a conditional proof, in which case they are not valid outside the conditional proof. Since there are no conditional proofs used in what you wrote above, that does not happen here.

Hmm great explanation.

Am I right when i say, so because P is the premise, I can use that whenever I want because its never going to not be the premise?

Similarly, because I deducted q in step 3, I can always use q just like I can always use p?
 
r0bHadz said:
Hmm great explanation.

Am I right when i say, so because P is the premise, I can use that whenever I want because its never going to not be the premise?

Similarly, because I deducted q in step 3, I can always use q just like I can always use p?
Yes. Both of those are valid.
 
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