Discrete math, sets, power sets.

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The discussion revolves around the concept of power sets in discrete mathematics, specifically focusing on the cardinality of power sets and the implications of the power rule. The original poster attempts to find the cardinalities of the power sets of a set S, defined as (0,1), and expresses confusion regarding the calculations for |P(P(P(S)))|.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the formula |P(S)| = 2^n and its derivation, with some referencing Pascal's triangle and the binomial theorem. There are attempts to clarify the relationship between the power set and its cardinality, as well as the reasoning behind the calculations for successive power sets.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different approaches to understanding the power set cardinality. Some have provided insights into the use of induction and counting methods, while others question the relevance of the binomial theorem in this context. There is no explicit consensus yet, but several productive lines of reasoning have been presented.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of power sets and their cardinalities, with some expressing uncertainty about the application of certain mathematical principles. The original poster's confusion about the calculations suggests a need for further clarification on the concepts involved.

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Homework Statement



If s (0,1), find
|P(S)|, |P(P(S))|, |P(P(P(S)))|




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The Attempt at a Solution



|P(S)| = {(0), (1), (0,1), ∅} = 4

|P(P(S))| = {...} = 16.

|P (P(P(S)))| = {...} = 16 ^4 ...but how?

as my lecturer explained it, it come from pascals triangle
where the number of elements in the original set corresponds to the number from the triangle. So far so good, so in |P(S)| it contains 4 elements as shown above. Hence |P(P(S))| is equal to the sum of the corresponding (4) row of the triangle (1,4,6,4,1) = 16.

But from this logic |P(P(P(S)))| should equal the sum of the (16) expansion, but this isn't the case... can some one explain why... what it is it that I'm not getting?
 
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from what i know lP(S)l=2^n
 
Correct, I only just realized it... does this come from binomial theorem?
 
I don't know why you would bring up binomial theorem? If you use that property of 2^n you should be able to easily solve lP(P(S)l and so on.
 
It's used to prove the "power rule".
 
okie...
Thanks for the quick reply!
 
two approaches to proving |P(A)| = 2|A|, for a finite set A.

approach 1: induction on |A|.

if |A| = 0, A is the empty set, in which case P(∅) = {∅} so |P(∅)| = 1 = 20.

assume that |P(A)| = 2|A|, whenever |A| < n.

now pick an element a in A. consider P(A-{a}). what sets are in P(A) that aren't in P(A-{a})? the sets containing a, right?

show that every set in P(A) that contains a is equal to BU{a}, where B is in P(A-{a}). conclude there is a bijection from the sets of P(A) containing a to P(A-{a}).

approach 2: just count.

there are nCk ways to pick k elements of A, if |A| = n, where:

nCk = n!/(k!(n-k)!)

so we have:

nCn (=1) subsets of A with n elements, namely A
nC(n-1) subsets of A with n-1 elements
...
nC2 subsets of A with 2 elements
nC1 = n subsets of A with 1 element, namely the sets {a} with a in A,
nC0 = 1 subset of A with no elements, namely, the empty set.

now add these together (these are the numbers in the n-th row of pascal's triangle).

of course, to prove:

[tex]\sum_{k=0}^n \begin{pmatrix}n\\k \end{pmatrix} = 2^n[/tex]

you'll probably have to use induction.
 
To simplify it more for you just look in the link:

http://www.proofwiki.org/wiki/Cardinality_of_Power_Set
 

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