Discrete Mathematics - Basic Set Theory : Assignment review : Q2

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The discussion revolves around basic set theory, specifically focusing on the operation involving the union of sets and the inclusion of the empty set. Participants are examining the combination of sets A and D, as well as the implications of including the empty set in various contexts.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to determine the result of combining sets A and D, questioning the role of the empty set in this operation. There is confusion regarding whether the empty set should be included or excluded in the final result.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights regarding the nature of the empty set and its role as a subset versus an element. There is an ongoing exploration of the notation used for set operations, with some participants suggesting that the "+" symbol may not be standard in set theory.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the potential misunderstanding of set operations, particularly regarding the use of "+" versus symmetric difference notation. Participants are also navigating the definitions and properties of the empty set within the context of the problem.

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Question 2:
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Homework Statement



Consider the following sets, where U represents a universal set :

U = {1, 2, 3, 4, ∅, {1}}
A = {1, 3}
B = {{1}, 1}
C = {2 , 4}
D = { ∅ , 1, 2 }

Homework Equations



A+D is the set : (Choose only one )

1. {1, 3}
2. {1, 2, 3}
3. {∅, 2, 3}
4. {2, 3}


The Attempt at a Solution



This is quite an easy one, however i am a bit confused - will explain now.
The answer , to my knowledge, is number 3.

If the 2 sets are combined with '+', the sets are added together, however all duplicates are removed. when all duplicates are removed , we are left with the following :

A + D = { ∅, 2, 3}

Please confirm if the above is correct.

However, the question I have :

If ∅ is included in every set, then why do we have to include it in this set, and additionally, if it is in every set, will it not be that it must be removed from A + D, so that we end with the set A+ D = { 2, 3 }

I am a bit confused with ∅ being included in every set.

Please be so kind as to help me with this one and advise where I am making an obvious error.
 
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Supierreious said:
Question 2:
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Homework Statement



Consider the following sets, where U represents a universal set :

U = {1, 2, 3, 4, ∅, {1}}
A = {1, 3}
B = {{1}, 1}
C = {2 , 4}
D = { ∅ , 1, 2 }

Homework Equations



A+D is the set : (Choose only one )

1. {1, 3}
2. {1, 2, 3}
3. {∅, 2, 3}
4. {2, 3}

The Attempt at a Solution



This is quite an easy one, however i am a bit confused - will explain now.
The answer , to my knowledge, is number 3.

If the 2 sets are combined with '+', the sets are added together, however all duplicates are removed. when all duplicates are removed , we are left with the following :

A + D = { ∅, 2, 3}

Please confirm if the above is correct.

However, the question I have :

If ∅ is included in every set, then why do we have to include it in this set, and additionally, if it is in every set, will it not be that it must be removed from A + D, so that we end with the set A+ D = { 2, 3 }

I am a bit confused with ∅ being included in every set.

Please be so kind as to help me with this one and advise where I am making an obvious error.
∅ = {} is the empty set, also known as the null set. It is not a member of every set, it is a subset of every set.

In this problem, the set D has {}, a.k.a. ∅, as one of its elements, just as set B has the set {1} as one of its elements.

For the sets in this problem the set, ∅, is a subset of all of them. However, the set, ∅, is an element of only sets, U and D. Also, the set {∅}, a.k.a. {{}}, is a subset of sets, U and D, but no others.
 
Thanks for the reply, so the correct answer , would be number 3.

Please advise if this is correct, as this is what I understand from the set having {} as a sub set, however not {} as an element.

Thanks again for helping me.
 
I don't believe that "+" is standard notation for an operation in basic set theory. You appear to be using it to mean the symmetric difference , more commonly, I believe, given as A\Delta B. Is that correct?

If so then, yes, the symmetric difference of A and D is {∅, 2, 3}. Yes, ∅ is a subset of every set. It is a member of a set only if it is specifically given as such, as in "D".
 
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Hi ... yes, you are correct. I have not heard of 'symmetric differences' before, and had to google it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetric_difference is what I found.

So to me the following is thus the same :

+ and your sign means the same.

what is the international convention ?
 

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