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1. Background/theory
We know that if the equation x3+px2+qx+r=0 has solutions x1, x2, x3 then
x1 + x2 + x3 = -p
x1x2 + x2x3 + x3x1 = q
x1x2x3 = -r
2. Problem statement
Find (x1 - x2)2(x2 - x3)2(x3 - x1)2 as an expression containing p,q,r.
That is, I'm supposed to find the discriminant of the above cubic equation in terms of its coefficients.
Now, I have approached the problem in two ways. First, I expanded the whole expression out and tried to manipulate the expression to get it in the desired terms. It is a very lenthy and laborious process though and I had trouble getting the right expression. So there must be some more elegant solution to this problem than just multiplying the expression out and manipulate it.
My best attempt at a "more elegant" solution was to reason as follows:
When we expand the expression (x1 - x2)2(x2 - x3)2(x3 - x1)2 we get a polynomial with terms of degree 6 in x1, x2, x3. Now, p has degree 1, q has degree 2 and r has degree 6 so the possible terms in the expression is:
p6, q3, r2, pqr, p3r, p4q, p2q2.
So we can write:
(x1 - x2)2(x2 - x3)2(x3 - x1)2 = Ap6 + Bq3 + Cr2 + Dpqr + Ep3r + Fp4q + Gp2q2 where A,...,G are constants.
Then I tried to determine A,...,G by finding cubic polynomials with given roots and thus given values of the discriminant and p, q, r. I easily determined the terms -27r2 and -4q3 by just letting p=0 but when I tried to determine the other constants I got weird numbers like A=770,4 and G=87,7 etc, whereas I expected those constants to be zero (since the discriminant does not contain p2q2, for instance). I can't explain why...
I am grateful for any guidance here! Also, I apologize for possible language errors, English is not my native.
We know that if the equation x3+px2+qx+r=0 has solutions x1, x2, x3 then
x1 + x2 + x3 = -p
x1x2 + x2x3 + x3x1 = q
x1x2x3 = -r
2. Problem statement
Find (x1 - x2)2(x2 - x3)2(x3 - x1)2 as an expression containing p,q,r.
That is, I'm supposed to find the discriminant of the above cubic equation in terms of its coefficients.
The Attempt at a Solution
Now, I have approached the problem in two ways. First, I expanded the whole expression out and tried to manipulate the expression to get it in the desired terms. It is a very lenthy and laborious process though and I had trouble getting the right expression. So there must be some more elegant solution to this problem than just multiplying the expression out and manipulate it.
My best attempt at a "more elegant" solution was to reason as follows:
When we expand the expression (x1 - x2)2(x2 - x3)2(x3 - x1)2 we get a polynomial with terms of degree 6 in x1, x2, x3. Now, p has degree 1, q has degree 2 and r has degree 6 so the possible terms in the expression is:
p6, q3, r2, pqr, p3r, p4q, p2q2.
So we can write:
(x1 - x2)2(x2 - x3)2(x3 - x1)2 = Ap6 + Bq3 + Cr2 + Dpqr + Ep3r + Fp4q + Gp2q2 where A,...,G are constants.
Then I tried to determine A,...,G by finding cubic polynomials with given roots and thus given values of the discriminant and p, q, r. I easily determined the terms -27r2 and -4q3 by just letting p=0 but when I tried to determine the other constants I got weird numbers like A=770,4 and G=87,7 etc, whereas I expected those constants to be zero (since the discriminant does not contain p2q2, for instance). I can't explain why...
I am grateful for any guidance here! Also, I apologize for possible language errors, English is not my native.