Discriminant of Quadratic Equations: Difference or Special Case?

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The discussion revolves around the nature of the discriminant in quadratic equations, specifically whether it represents the difference between the two roots or if it is a special case. Participants explore the mathematical definitions and relationships involving the discriminant and the roots of the equation.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that the discriminant, defined as Δ = b² - 4ac, is not the difference between the two roots of a quadratic equation.
  • It is noted that the difference between the roots can be expressed as (√Δ)/a, which is distinct from the discriminant itself.
  • Conditions under which the discriminant could equal the difference between the roots are discussed, including cases of repeated roots and specific relationships involving the coefficients of the quadratic equation.
  • Participants mention that the product and sum of the roots can be expressed in terms of the coefficients, leading to alternative forms of the quadratic equation.
  • One participant emphasizes that the discriminant determines the nature of the roots rather than being equivalent to the difference of the roots.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on whether the discriminant is the difference between the two roots, as participants present differing views and interpretations of the relationships involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific mathematical expressions and conditions that may not be universally applicable, indicating a reliance on particular definitions and assumptions regarding the discriminant and roots.

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Is the discriminant, of the quadratic equations, the difference between the two roots?
Or is it a special case?
 
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Sumedh said:
Is the discriminant, of the quadratic equations, the difference between the two roots?
Or is it a special case?
I'm not sure what your asking here, but the quadratic discriminant is \Delta = b^2 - 4ac. The two roots are

x_\pm = \frac{-b\pm\sqrt{\Delta}}{2a},

with the difference being

x_+ - x_- = \frac{-b + \sqrt{\Delta} + b +\sqrt{\Delta}}{2a} = \frac{\sqrt{\Delta}}{a}.

So in general, the discriminant is not the difference between the two roots. The condition for the discriminant to be the difference between the two roots is

\Delta = \frac{\sqrt{\Delta}}{a}\text{ or } \Delta = 0\;, \Delta = a^{-2}.

The first corresponds to the case when you have repeated roots (obviously) and the second occurs when a^2b^2 - 4a^3c - 1 = 0.
 


Hootenanny said:
I'm not sure what your asking here, but the quadratic discriminant is \Delta = b^2 - 4ac. The two roots are

x_\pm = \frac{-b\pm\sqrt{\Delta}}{2a},

with the difference being

x_+ - x_- = \frac{-b + \sqrt{\Delta} + b +\sqrt{\Delta}}{2a} = \frac{\sqrt{\Delta}}{a}.

So in general, the discriminant is not the difference between the two roots. The condition for the discriminant to be the difference between the two roots is

\Delta = \frac{\sqrt{\Delta}}{a}\text{ or } \Delta = 0\;, \Delta = a^{-2}.

The first corresponds to the case when you have repeated roots (obviously) and the second occurs when a^2b^2 - 4a^3c - 1 = 0.

Yes Hooteny .

Let x and y be the two distinct roots of quadratic equation ax2+bx+c = 0
and D = b2-4ac then xy (Product of two roots)= c/a and x+y (Sum of two roots) = -b/a .

So we can also write a quadratic equation in this form :

x2+bx/a+c/a = 0
or

A quadratic equation is written in this form :
x2 - (Sum of two roots)x + (Product of two roots) = 0

The only relation which establishes between equal roots of two different quadratic equations are :

c1/a1 = c2/a2 = ... = cn/an

and

-b1/a1 = -b2/a2 = ... = -bn/an



As Hooteny marks :

Difference of two roots of a quadratic equation is : sqrt(D)/a which is not equal to D. Discriminant (D or Δ) or determinant just determines the nature of roots of a quadratic equation.
 


Thank you very much.
 

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