Displacement Vectors Homework: Magnitude & Direction

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The discussion revolves around calculating the displacement vector of a bird affected by wind acceleration. The bird initially moves east at 4.00 mph, which converts to approximately 1.788 m/s, while experiencing a northward wind acceleration of 0.300 m/s² for 3.50 seconds. The correct approach involves determining the total displacement in both the easterly and southerly directions, leading to a final displacement magnitude of approximately 6.5363 m. The user initially struggled with the calculations but ultimately found clarity in the method and successfully solved the problem. The conversation highlights the importance of correctly interpreting displacement vectors in physics problems.
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Homework Statement



An unsuspecting bird is coasting along in an easterly direction at 4.00 mph when a strong wind from the north imparts a constant acceleration of 0.300 m/s2. If the acceleration from the wind lasts for 3.50 s, find the magnitude, r, and direction, θ, of the bird\'s displacement during this time period.

Homework Equations



R=Vt+(1/2)At2
Δv = a * Δt
Magnitude of a 2 component vector: A = √(Ax2 + Ay2)

The Attempt at a Solution


4.0 mph = 1.78816 m/s

I drew a picture, but I'm not even sure I drew it correctly - I've been working on this one problem for about 3 hours now with no correct solution.

Trying to deconstruct the vectors:

horizontally (east)
The bird is flying 1.7886 m/s

vertically
Δv = a * Δt
Δv = .3m/s^2 * 3.5s = 1.05m/s

From here I think I can find the angle of displacement, or
arcsin(1.05m/s) / (1.78816m/s) = 35.95826°

Then I try to use the formula they gave me, but this is probably where I start to go wrong if not aleady:

to find magnitude of velocity vector: √(1.78816^2 + 1.05^2) = 2.0734 m/s

R = (2.0736*3.5s) + 1/2(.3)*3.52

Using this and several variations, I've found the following (wrong) answers for R (magnitude of displacement): 7.2577, 4.9667 and 2.073

and this is as far as I can get in the problem. I've watched several videos on the subject and just can't seem to put the problem together properly.

Thanks in advance for the help!

bnashville
 
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bnashville said:

Homework Statement



An unsuspecting bird is coasting along in an easterly direction at 4.00 mph when a strong wind from the north imparts a constant acceleration of 0.300 m/s2. If the acceleration from the wind lasts for 3.50 s, find the magnitude, r, and direction, θ, of the bird\'s displacement during this time period.


Homework Equations



R=Vt+(1/2)At2
Δv = a * Δt
Magnitude of a 2 component vector: A = √(Ax2 + Ay2)

The Attempt at a Solution


4.0 mph = 1.78816 m/s

I drew a picture, but I'm not even sure I drew it correctly - I've been working on this one problem for about 3 hours now with no correct solution.

Trying to deconstruct the vectors:

horizontally (east)
The bird is flying 1.7886 m/s

vertically
Δv = a * Δt
Δv = .3m/s^2 * 3.5s = 1.05m/s

From here I think I can find the angle of displacement, or
arcsin(1.05m/s) / (1.78816m/s) = 35.95826°

Then I try to use the formula they gave me, but this is probably where I start to go wrong if not aleady:

to find magnitude of velocity vector: √(1.78816^2 + 1.05^2) = 2.0734 m/s

R = (2.0736*3.5s) + 1/2(.3)*3.52

Using this and several variations, I've found the following (wrong) answers for R (magnitude of displacement): 7.2577, 4.9667 and 2.073

and this is as far as I can get in the problem. I've watched several videos on the subject and just can't seem to put the problem together properly.

Thanks in advance for the help!

bnashville

You need to find the displacement vector for the time period of the wind acceleration, not the change in velocity in the easterly direction.

So instead of this:

Δv = a * Δt
Δv = .3m/s^2 * 3.5s = 1.05m/s

figure out what the total displacement in the easterly direction is. Then the displacement vector is just the 2 components: the constant displacement in the easterly direction, and the total displacement in the southerly direction.
 
You need to find the displacement vector for the time period of the wind acceleration, not the change in velocity in the easterly direction.

So instead of this:

Δv = a * Δt
Δv = .3m/s^2 * 3.5s = 1.05m/s

figure out what the total displacement in the easterly direction is. Then the displacement vector is just the 2 components: the constant displacement in the easterly direction, and the total displacement in the southerly direction.

Thanks! That pointed me in the right direction and helped a few things click. I used: x = x0 + vt to get:

1.7786m/s * 3.5s = 6.2251m (displacement east)

then used:
Δv= a * Δt = 1.05m/s (wind velocity to the south)

magnitude of displacement = Δv * Δt = 1.05 m/s * 6.251s = 6.5363m

This answer worked, but after answering that last part correctly, in the second part of the problem it reads: The displacement vector is:

\vec{r} = (6.26m) \hat{i} + (1.84m) \hat{j}

None of that makes any sense to me, since I haven't seen those numbers before. Is there another way to do the same problem? How did they get those numbers?
 
Nevermind, I found my answer. Case closed, thanks!
 
bnashville said:
Nevermind, I found my answer. Case closed, thanks!

Sweet! :smile:
 
The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

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