Displacement Vectors Homework: Magnitude & Direction

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The problem involves calculating the displacement of a bird moving in an easterly direction while experiencing a constant acceleration from the north due to wind. The objective is to determine both the magnitude and direction of the bird's displacement over a specified time period.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the conversion of speed from mph to m/s and the decomposition of vectors into horizontal and vertical components. There are attempts to apply kinematic equations to find displacement, with some questioning the correct interpretation of displacement versus change in velocity.

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Some participants have provided guidance on focusing on total displacement rather than just changes in velocity. There is acknowledgment of confusion regarding the final displacement vector components, with one participant expressing uncertainty about the numbers presented in the problem's second part.

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Participants note the challenge of visualizing the problem and the potential for misunderstanding the relationship between displacement and velocity components. There is mention of time constraints and the difficulty of reconciling different approaches to the problem.

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Homework Statement



An unsuspecting bird is coasting along in an easterly direction at 4.00 mph when a strong wind from the north imparts a constant acceleration of 0.300 m/s2. If the acceleration from the wind lasts for 3.50 s, find the magnitude, r, and direction, θ, of the bird\'s displacement during this time period.

Homework Equations



R=Vt+(1/2)At2
Δv = a * Δt
Magnitude of a 2 component vector: A = √(Ax2 + Ay2)

The Attempt at a Solution


4.0 mph = 1.78816 m/s

I drew a picture, but I'm not even sure I drew it correctly - I've been working on this one problem for about 3 hours now with no correct solution.

Trying to deconstruct the vectors:

horizontally (east)
The bird is flying 1.7886 m/s

vertically
Δv = a * Δt
Δv = .3m/s^2 * 3.5s = 1.05m/s

From here I think I can find the angle of displacement, or
arcsin(1.05m/s) / (1.78816m/s) = 35.95826°

Then I try to use the formula they gave me, but this is probably where I start to go wrong if not aleady:

to find magnitude of velocity vector: √(1.78816^2 + 1.05^2) = 2.0734 m/s

R = (2.0736*3.5s) + 1/2(.3)*3.52

Using this and several variations, I've found the following (wrong) answers for R (magnitude of displacement): 7.2577, 4.9667 and 2.073

and this is as far as I can get in the problem. I've watched several videos on the subject and just can't seem to put the problem together properly.

Thanks in advance for the help!

bnashville
 
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bnashville said:

Homework Statement



An unsuspecting bird is coasting along in an easterly direction at 4.00 mph when a strong wind from the north imparts a constant acceleration of 0.300 m/s2. If the acceleration from the wind lasts for 3.50 s, find the magnitude, r, and direction, θ, of the bird\'s displacement during this time period.


Homework Equations



R=Vt+(1/2)At2
Δv = a * Δt
Magnitude of a 2 component vector: A = √(Ax2 + Ay2)

The Attempt at a Solution


4.0 mph = 1.78816 m/s

I drew a picture, but I'm not even sure I drew it correctly - I've been working on this one problem for about 3 hours now with no correct solution.

Trying to deconstruct the vectors:

horizontally (east)
The bird is flying 1.7886 m/s

vertically
Δv = a * Δt
Δv = .3m/s^2 * 3.5s = 1.05m/s

From here I think I can find the angle of displacement, or
arcsin(1.05m/s) / (1.78816m/s) = 35.95826°

Then I try to use the formula they gave me, but this is probably where I start to go wrong if not aleady:

to find magnitude of velocity vector: √(1.78816^2 + 1.05^2) = 2.0734 m/s

R = (2.0736*3.5s) + 1/2(.3)*3.52

Using this and several variations, I've found the following (wrong) answers for R (magnitude of displacement): 7.2577, 4.9667 and 2.073

and this is as far as I can get in the problem. I've watched several videos on the subject and just can't seem to put the problem together properly.

Thanks in advance for the help!

bnashville

You need to find the displacement vector for the time period of the wind acceleration, not the change in velocity in the easterly direction.

So instead of this:

Δv = a * Δt
Δv = .3m/s^2 * 3.5s = 1.05m/s

figure out what the total displacement in the easterly direction is. Then the displacement vector is just the 2 components: the constant displacement in the easterly direction, and the total displacement in the southerly direction.
 
You need to find the displacement vector for the time period of the wind acceleration, not the change in velocity in the easterly direction.

So instead of this:

Δv = a * Δt
Δv = .3m/s^2 * 3.5s = 1.05m/s

figure out what the total displacement in the easterly direction is. Then the displacement vector is just the 2 components: the constant displacement in the easterly direction, and the total displacement in the southerly direction.

Thanks! That pointed me in the right direction and helped a few things click. I used: x = x0 + vt to get:

1.7786m/s * 3.5s = 6.2251m (displacement east)

then used:
Δv= a * Δt = 1.05m/s (wind velocity to the south)

magnitude of displacement = Δv * Δt = 1.05 m/s * 6.251s = 6.5363m

This answer worked, but after answering that last part correctly, in the second part of the problem it reads: The displacement vector is:

\vec{r} = (6.26m) \hat{i} + (1.84m) \hat{j}

None of that makes any sense to me, since I haven't seen those numbers before. Is there another way to do the same problem? How did they get those numbers?
 
Nevermind, I found my answer. Case closed, thanks!
 
bnashville said:
Nevermind, I found my answer. Case closed, thanks!

Sweet! :smile:
 

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