Distance between two objects dropped at different times

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The problem involves two objects dropped from a height at different times, with the second object being dropped 1.50 seconds after the first. The question seeks to determine the distance between the two objects when the second object reaches a speed of 12.0 m/s, with relevant parameters including initial velocities and acceleration due to gravity.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the need to write separate equations for the displacements of both objects, considering the time difference in their drops. Some express uncertainty about how to handle the two objects simultaneously.

Discussion Status

There are multiple approaches being explored, with some participants suggesting equations for displacement and others questioning the treatment of time differences. Guidance has been offered regarding the necessity of treating each object separately and relating their times to solve the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of understanding the equations of motion and the effects of the time delay between the drops. There is also mention of the need to clarify the signs in the equations used for calculations.

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Homework Statement


An object is dropped from the roof. A second object is dropped 1.50 s later. How far apart are the objects when the second one has reached a speed of 12.0 m/s.

GIVEN
Obj 1 - vi=0 m/s , a=-9.8 m/s/s
Obj 2 - vi=0 m/s, vf=12.0 m/s, a=-9.8 m/s/s

Homework Equations


d=vf*t+1/2*a*t2


The Attempt at a Solution


d=12.0*1.50+1/2*-9.8*2.25
d=18-11.025
d=6.975

I'm not sure exactly how to do this when there's two objects :S.
The answer is 29.0 m, but I want to understand how to get it.
 
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Write the equations for the displacements of both objects. The usual equation is the distance traveled during the time since the object has been dropped: If you start a stopwatch when the first object is dropped, and the second one when the other one is dropped, the second watch will 1.5 s behind the first one.

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So would it be:
d=vf*t-1/2*a*tt
d=12*1.5-1/2*-9.8*2.25
d=18-(-11.025)
d=29

Oh I think I just messed up the sign on the equation.
I think its right now.(?)
 
You need to treat each object separately; i.e. you need an equation for the displacement of each object. (Technically these should be functions of time.)

There is a time difference between the two objects; if you know the difference, how can you relate the times of the two objects? This relation will allow you to solve the first two equations.
 
3005 said:
So would it be:
d=vf*t-1/2*a*tt
d=12*1.5-1/2*-9.8*2.25
d=18-(-11.025)
d=29

Oh I think I just messed up the sign on the equation.
I think its right now.(?)
I do not know how you arrived to the equation, but it is correct.

When the second object is dropped the first one has the velocity of 1.5 g and traveled 1/2 g 1.5^2 meters. After that, the distance traveled by it is
s1=1/2 g 2.25+1.5gt + g/2 t^2, and that of the second object is s2=1/2gt. The distance between the objects is

D=s1-s2 =1/2 g 2.25+1.5 gt.

The second object reaches 12 m/s velocity in t=12/g time. Plugging back for t you get D=29.0 m.

ehild
 

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