Distance travelled by the case down a ramp w/a spring at the bottom

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The problem involves a case of bottled water sliding down an inclined ramp and compressing a spring at the bottom. The case has a mass of 5.0 kg and the ramp is inclined at 25 degrees. The spring can be compressed by a specified force, and the task is to determine the distance the case travels down the ramp before contacting the spring.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply energy conservation principles, using the spring force and gravitational potential energy equations. They express confusion regarding the correct interpretation of the spring compression and the height calculation.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's calculations, questioning the use of trigonometric functions and clarifying the role of the given spring compression in determining the spring constant. There is a focus on correcting misunderstandings about the parameters involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the 2.0 cm compression is solely for calculating the spring constant and does not affect the actual compression when the case impacts the spring. There is an emphasis on ensuring the correct application of trigonometric functions in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement



A 5.0 kg case of bottled Spring water is released from rest down a shipping ramp inclined 25oto the horizontal. At the base of the ramp, oriented parallel to its surface, is a spring that can be compressed 2.0 cm by a force 260 N. The case of water moves down the ramp and compresses the sring by 5.5 cm. How far has the case of water traveled down the ramp from its point of release before hitting the spring?

Homework Equations


Fspring= kx
E=mgh
E=0.5*kx2

The Attempt at a Solution


know that the force exerted by the spring is 260 at x=0.02 m i figured out k which is 13000N/m. i know that h= dcos [tex]\vartheta[/tex]. i set up the equation
mgdcos[tex]\vartheta[/tex]= 0.5*kx2 where x now equals the difference between 5.5cm and 2.0cm and solved for d i ended up getting 1.8m when the answer is actually half that i was wondering what i did wrong??
 

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Check your expression for "h."
 
if i use sin theta i get -1.2278 m
 
It should be sin, not cos. And x is not the difference between 5.5 cm and 2.0 cm, it's just 5.5 cm, i.e. the amount by which the spring is compressed.
 
ok...so then the 2.0 cm was just given to us to figure out the force and has nothing to do with the actual compression of the spring when the bottle hits it..??
 
brunettegurl said:
ok...so then the 2.0 cm was just given to us to figure out the force and has nothing to do with the actual compression of the spring when the bottle hits it..??

Right. The 2.0 cm figure is only used to determine the spring constant.
 

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