Distinct zeros of irreducible polynomial

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The discussion centers on the claim that an irreducible polynomial \( p \in \mathbb{F}[X] \) over a field \( \mathbb{F} \subset \mathbb{C} \) has distinct zeros. It is established that if \( p(X) = (X - z_1)(X - z_2) \cdots (X - z_N) \), then all \( z_1, \ldots, z_N \) must be distinct due to the property of separability in fields of characteristic zero. The proof hinges on the relationship between a polynomial and its formal derivative \( Dp(X) \); if they share a root, it contradicts the irreducibility of \( p \). Thus, every irreducible polynomial over such fields is confirmed to be separable.

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This claim is supposed to be true. Assume that p\in\mathbb{F}[X] is an irreducible polynomial over a field \mathbb{F}\subset\mathbb{C}. Also assume that

<br /> p(X)=(X-z_1)\cdots (X-z_N)<br />

holds with some z_1,\ldots, z_N\in\mathbb{C}. Now all z_1,\ldots, z_N are distinct.

Why is this claim true?

For example, if z_1=z_2, then (X-z_1)^2 divides p, but I see no reason to assume that (X-z_1)^2\in\mathbb{F}[X], so the claim remains a mystery to me.
 
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This is because every field F of characteristic zero is a perfect field. This means that every irreducible polynomial over F is separable ( splits in the splitting field with distinct linear factors ).

A polynomial p(x) has multiple roots in the splitting field, iff the polynomials p(x) and Dp(x) [its formal derivative ] have a root in common. In other words, if c is the root of p(x), the minimal polynomial of c over F will divide both p(x) and Dp(x). So, if p(x) has multiple roots in the splitting field, p(x) and Dp(x) are not co-prime.

Assume p(x) in F[x] is irreducible, and has degree n. Then, Dp(x) is degree n - 1; however, p(x) is irreducible, so its only factors in a factorization are p( x ) and constants. So, since Dp(x) is degree n -1 < n, its non-constant factors must be degree d: 1 <= d <= n - 1. So, p(x ) and Dp(x) do not have any common non-unit factors, and hence the polynomials are co-prime. So, p(x) is separable
 
Thank you for the good answer, but I did not understand the purpose of every part of it. Is there something wrong with proof like this:

Assume that p\in\mathbb{F}[X] has a zero x of higher degree than one. Now Dp\in\mathbb{F}[X] has the same zero. Let m be the minimial polynomial of x in \mathbb{F}. Now m|p and m|Dp, so in particular m|p with such m that its degree is less than the degree of p, which is a contradiction.
 
There isn't anything wrong with saying it like that. That's the idea: if p is irreducible over F, then p is a minimal polynomial ( once you scale it to be monic ), of some x which is a root in the splitting field. If x is also a root of Dp, then the minimal polynomial of x has to divide Dp. As Dp has a smaller degree, this is impossible.
This is exactly what was going on in the last paragraph. Actually it's a proof (although it's pretty trivial ) of the obvious fact that since Dp has smaller degree, the minimal polynomial cannot divide Dp. the irreducible factors of Dp must have degree <= n - 1. But the minimal polynomial must be degree n, and if the min polynomial divided Dp, it would appear in the decomposition of Dp into irreducibles
 

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