Divergence/convergence infinite series

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The discussion revolves around the divergence of the series \(\sum \frac{1}{(\ln k)^n}\) for \(k = 2, 3, \ldots\) and any integer \(n\). Participants explore various methods to demonstrate this divergence.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Initial attempts involve comparing the series to a p-series and questioning the applicability of the ratio and nth root tests. Participants discuss the challenge of finding a suitable comparison series for \(n > 1\).
  • One participant proposes using calculus to analyze the function \(f(x) = \frac{(\ln x)^n}{x}\) to establish inequalities that could aid in the comparison.
  • Another participant clarifies the conditions under which the function is decreasing and how this relates to the divergence of the series.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing insights and reasoning. Some have identified a potential path forward using calculus to establish necessary inequalities, while others are still exploring different methods. There is no explicit consensus, but constructive dialogue is ongoing.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the indexing of the series and the requirement to show divergence for any \(n\). There is an emphasis on the need for careful comparisons and the limitations of certain tests in this context.

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Homework Statement



show \sum 1/(ln k)^n diverges,for any n. the indexing is k = 2,3,...

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Because k > ln k, k^n > ln k^n, and 1/k^n < 1/ln k^n

so this is just a p-series, which diverges for p =< 1.

So now I need to show it diverges for n > 1, but I'm having trouble finding a series to compare it with.
 
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What about using another method like the ratio test? Or the nth root test?
 
I don't think either of those will work because the ratio test just gives the limit of a_k+1 over a_k = 1 and the kth root test doesn't seem to help because the limit also tends to 1.

Just to be clear, the indexing is from k = 2,3,... and this series is divergent for any n.
 
ok so this problem became a lot easier once i found out k > (ln k)^n, for any k larger than
some K. If I use this fact, then the problem becomes easy as I can just compare 1/(ln k)^n to 1/k and remove the first 2 through K terms.

But, I have no idea how to show that k > (ln k)^n for big enough k?
 
I use calculus. Examine the function:

<br /> f(x)=\frac{(\log x)^{n}}{x}<br />

Differentiate this function and find out that it is either increasing or decreasing and use that (with an initial value) to get the inequality for a variable x and then it much also be true for natural numbers.
 
Ok, I think I see where to go.

so if f(x) = (lnx)^n/x then f'(x) = [nln(x)^(n-1) - 2ln(x)^n] /x^3

the denominator is positive on our domain [2,infinity), the numerator is negative when x > e^n/2

so f(x) is decreasing when x > e^n/2, call this K

plug in f(K) = some number, call it R

so f(x) is positive and decreasing, thus

R > f(x), when x > K.

so R > (lnx)^n/x, or 1/x < R/(lnx)^n, for x > K

if we consider the series and remove the first 2,...,K terms,

we have the series of 1/x < the series of R/(lnx)^n.

1/x diverges and so must R/(lnx)^n

R is just a finite # so if the series of R/(lnx)^n diverges, then the series of 1/(lnx)^n must as well

Did I follow you correctly?
 
Yes.
 

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