Division algorithm for polynomials

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The discussion focuses on applying the division algorithm for polynomials to find polynomials q and r such that x^M - 1 = q(x^N - 1) + r, where M and N are positive integers with M > N. The user initially rewrites the equation and identifies that q must be of a certain degree but struggles with the next steps. They recognize that x - 1 is a factor of x^M - 1, leading to the conclusion that q(x) can be expressed as a sum of terms. The conversation emphasizes using the division algorithm effectively and encourages practice with simpler examples to clarify the process. The discussion ultimately aims to solve for q and r in the polynomial division context.
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M and N are positive integers with M>N. The division algorithm for integers tells us there exists integers Q and R such that M=QN+R with 0\leqR<N. The division algorithm for real polynomials tells us that there exist real polynomials q and r such that xM - 1 = q(xN - 1) + r with r = 0 or deg r < N. Find q and r.

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I have rewritten it as xQN+R - 1 = q(xN - 1) + r, so I think q must be of degree QN+R-N = N(Q-1)+R

However, it is not then always (in fact more likely not) true that N(Q-1)+R<N so 1 must have more than 1 term. But I am struggling to know where to go from here.

Thanks for any help :)
 
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Take p(x) = xm - 1. What are the roots of p(x)? There is a clearly a root, 1, so x-1 is a factor. Now divide p(x) by x-1.
 
So I get to

xM-1 + xM-2 + ... + 1 = q(xM-1 + xM-2 + ... + 1) + r

But I don't know what to do now?
 
You are trying to figure out q and r in: xM - 1 = q(xN - 1) + r

You are aware that x-1 is a factor, which is clearly of the form xN - 1 (N=1). That gives you a hint on what the degree of r is.
You have also correctly identified the polynomial q(x) = 1 + x + x2 + .. + xm-1. So what is (x-1)q(x)? Does this give you your original polynomial xM - 1? So then what is r?
 
Why don't you use the division algorithm? Practice on something like x^14-1=q(x^3-1)+r. It's actually pretty easy. You just have to replace the numbers with M, Q, R and N.
 
Sorted! Thanks for all the help :)
 
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