Do 2 equal gravitational pulls cancel?

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The discussion revolves around the effects of gravitational forces exerted by two equal masses on a smaller object placed at the midpoint between them. Participants explore the implications of gravitational pull, the concept of equilibrium, and related phenomena such as Lagrange points.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a scenario with two equal masses and questions what happens to a smaller mass placed at the midpoint, suggesting it might be torn apart.
  • Another participant asserts that the net gravitational field at the midpoint would be zero, meaning the smaller mass would experience no gravitational force.
  • A third participant mentions that the midpoint is a Lagrange point, noting that it is not stable, while also referencing stable Lagrange points in the Earth-Moon system.
  • One participant draws a parallel between gravitational fields and electric fields, suggesting that the forces on the smaller object would be distributed and could lead to it being torn apart if the gravitational pull is strong enough.
  • Another participant elaborates on the interaction of gravitational vectors, emphasizing the need to sum the gravitational fields before applying them to the smaller object.
  • A later reply introduces the idea of being weightless at the center of the Earth due to equal gravitational pull from all directions.

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Participants express differing views on the behavior of the smaller object in the gravitational field created by the two larger masses. While some agree on the concept of a zero net force at the midpoint, others introduce the idea of instability and the potential for the smaller object to be affected by gravitational differentials.

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Participants discuss the implications of gravitational forces without resolving the complexities of gravitational interactions, particularly in relation to the stability of Lagrange points and the behavior of extended objects in a gravitational field.

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This discussion may be of interest to those studying gravitational physics, celestial mechanics, or anyone curious about the interactions of forces in a gravitational field.

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imagine this scenario. you have two equally massive objects, exerting an equal amount of gravitational force (they are perfect spheres), and they are held apart a certain distance (how they are held apart is irrelevant). for simplicity, let's just say that their masses are about the same as that of earth, and that the distance between them is fairly small; say, a few miles or so, close enough so they would both have a strong gravitational pull.

now here comes my question: if you placed a third object with a much smaller mass (although large enough to be affected by gravity... perhaps a 100kg sphere?) right at the midpoint between these two masses, what would happen to it?

my first thought that was it would be torn in two and each half would go towards the closer mass... but how would any movement be able to happen if the net force is zero? maybe you guys can help me figure out what would happen to the middle object?
 
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thechosenone said:
my first thought that was it would be torn in two and each half would go towards the closer mass... but how would any movement be able to happen if the net force is zero?
The net gravitational field exactly at the midpoint between the two large, equal masses will be zero. That means an object placed there would experience no gravitational force, not two strong forces that cancel out. (Of course, a real object has some size so it can't all be at the exact middle--but I believe my answer addresses your real concern.)
 
You should know that net gravitational field at the midpoint (assuming that both objects have equal masses) where you want to place your object would be zero.

EDIT: OK, I need to seriously work on my typing speed.
 
ok, thanks for the help
 
i think this is called a "lagrange point" and the one you describe is not stable. but there are stable lagrange points in the orbit of the moon around the center of mass it shares with the earth. those stable lagrange points collect dust and/or debris, i think.
 
Lagrange points are a bit more complex to understand, but worth looking at. As usual wiki provides at least an introductory background. Consider a gravitational field in the same way you might think about electric fields, more than likely you've come across questions asking to calculate the resulting force when charged bodies interact, replace electric with gravitational field and it's all good.

I remember being amazed at the fact that branches of physics that seem so far apart obey the same basic outline, patterns appear everywhere.
 
if u analyze it according to an electric or magnetic field, which i think is a correct way to do it, the forces would be distributed along the surface of the object, so this will create an opposite pull on the object. if its a weak object and the pull force is big enough it should be torn apart. don't u think guys?
 
eaboujaoudeh said:
if u analyze it according to an electric or magnetic field, which i think is a correct way to do it, the forces would be distributed along the surface of the object, so this will create an opposite pull on the object. if its a weak object and the pull force is big enough it should be torn apart. don't u think guys?

Yes. But don't think that it is "each of the composing forces" which is pulling on the object's parts. What happens, is that you FIRST have to add the two g-vectors originating from the two sources, obtain the "sum g field", and THEN you apply the local g vector to each of the pieces of your extended object.

Exactly as with an E-field.

(only, because "gravitational charge" is not mobile, as are electrical charges in a conductor, the interaction is all over the volume, and not concentrated on the surface).
 
I think another way of looking at this question is: If you could drill a tunnel to the center of the Earth and build a room there, you would be weightless in this room because the pull of gravity would be equal in every direction.
 

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