Do Diagonals Always Confirm a Quadrilateral is Convex?

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The discussion centers on the proof that if the diagonals of a quadrilateral intersect, then the quadrilateral is convex. The proof utilizes the Crossbar theorem to establish that points A, B, C, and D must satisfy specific conditions to confirm the convexity of quadrilateral ABCD. The participants emphasize the importance of starting with the hypothesis that the diagonals intersect rather than assuming the quadrilateral is convex from the outset. This logical approach is crucial for a valid proof.

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Here is the problem:

If the diagonals of a quadrilateral intersect each other, then the quadrilateral is convex.

Proof:

Let ABCD be a convex quadrilateral. Since quadrilateral ABCD is convex, A and D are on the same side of line BC, and D and C are on the same side of line AB. Thus D is a member of the int(angle ABC). With the Crossbad theorem, BD intersect AC = {P} where C-P-R. So AC intersect BC = {Q} where D-Q-R. Since A, B, C, D are noncollinear points P=Q. So AC intersect BD = {P} = {Q}. Which proves that AC intersects PR = the empty set. Since a convex quadrilateral has the property that its diagonals intersect then ABCD is conves.


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mathstudent88 said:
Here is the problem:

If the diagonals of a quadrilateral intersect each other, then the quadrilateral is convex.

Proof:

Let ABCD be a convex quadrilateral. Since quadrilateral ABCD is convex, A and D are on the same side of line BC, and D and C are on the same side of line AB. Thus D is a member of the int(angle ABC). With the Crossbad theorem, BD intersect AC = {P} where C-P-R. So AC intersect BC = {Q} where D-Q-R. Since A, B, C, D are noncollinear points P=Q. So AC intersect BD = {P} = {Q}. Which proves that AC intersects PR = the empty set. Since a convex quadrilateral has the property that its diagonals intersect then ABCD is conves.
No. You cannot start with "Let ABCD be a convex quadrilateral". That is what you are asked to prove. Start with the hypotheis that the diagonals intersect. Or you can use "indirect" proof: Suppose the quadrilateral is NOT convex. Then what can you say about the diagonals?


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Is this better?

Let ABCD be a quadrilateral.
If A and B are on the same side of the line CD and B and C are on the same side of the line DA then B is in the interior of angle ADC. The Crossbar theorem says that the ray DB intersects the segment AC at some point P.
Similarly A is in the interior of angle BCD which implies ray CA intersects segment BD at some point Q.
Thus P and Q lie both on the lines AC and BD.
Being diagonals, these lines are not the same and so P=Q is the common point of intersection.
Because of this, these four condition hold:
A and B are on the same side of line CD
B and C are on the same side of line DA
C and D are on the same side of line AB
D and A are on the same side of line BC
making the quadrilateral convex.

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