Do I Need HS Geometry for Upper Division Math?

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The discussion centers around the necessity of high school geometry knowledge for success in upper division mathematics. Participants explore the relevance of geometry in relation to topics such as trigonometry, proofs, and advanced mathematical concepts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the need for high school geometry, noting success in lower division math without extensive knowledge of it.
  • Another argues that a solid background in geometry is important for understanding trigonometry and for developing proof skills, which are essential in higher mathematics.
  • A different viewpoint emphasizes that while geometry may not be directly applied, familiarity with proofs and concepts like vectors and matrices, often covered in geometry, is crucial for advanced courses.
  • One participant acknowledges knowledge of trigonometry, vectors, and matrices but lacks familiarity with geometry's postulates and theorems.
  • Another suggests that while geometry may not be necessary for most higher math, certain concepts like similar triangles and angles may occasionally be relevant.
  • One participant reassures that if unfamiliar topics arise, self-study can suffice, implying that geometry is not a strict requirement.

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Participants express differing opinions on the necessity of high school geometry, with some asserting its importance for foundational skills while others downplay its relevance for upper division math. No consensus is reached regarding its overall necessity.

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Participants reference varying educational experiences and curricula, indicating that the importance of geometry may depend on specific courses and individual learning paths.

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Do I need to know high school geometry for upper division math? I aced most of my lower division math without any extensive knowledge of HS geometry. I know enough to do a max min box problem and a incline plane physics problem. But other then that, I don't know much.
 
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It will be difficult to do well in trig without a fairly good background in geometry. Besides the direct utility in knowing something about triangles, you will need the background in proofs (normally taught in geometry) to do well proving identities.
 
Yes. It is needed more than calc imo. True, you will rarely if ever use Euclid's results but you will get familiar with proofs which dominate all of math. Likewise, geometry courses will cover vectors and matrices (at least in Canada) which are used constantly in higher year math and physics. Most advanced linear algebra courses will assume faimiliarity with these concepts, even if the course prereqs don't. If your geometry course covers trig, that alone would also be a huge factor.
 
Well I know trig, vectors and matricies. I just don't know the postulates, theorems and proofs utilized in geometry.
 
Okay, so I am guessing you've seen theorems and proofs of other things, which is all you really take home from geometry. Well that and proof by contradiction. No, stuff covered in geometry will not be used in higher math. Unless you get into number theory and compass constructions, which is pure math that a physicist won't usually take.

Still, I have come into about three occassions that invoked the use of similar triangles, subtended angles, and parrallel lines. But other than that, you don't need the results.

It won't hurt to study it, as its not too hard. But if time does not permit, don't sweat it.
 
Don't worry about it. If you run into something you don't know, then you should just read up on it.
 

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