Preparing for upper division courses (transfer)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on preparing for upper division physics courses after transferring from a community college. Participants share concerns about readiness, particularly in mathematical methods and quantum mechanics/statistical mechanics, and seek recommendations for preparatory materials.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about being at a disadvantage due to less rigorous previous coursework and seeks recommendations for preparatory books or online materials.
  • Another participant suggests contacting the course instructors directly for the most relevant materials, emphasizing their authority on the subject.
  • A different participant asks for specifics about the university and course details, suggesting that previous textbooks may still be applicable and recommending checking local libraries or online resources.
  • One participant advises reviewing foundational calculus and introductory physics topics, highlighting the importance of understanding mechanics for electromagnetism derivations. They also recommend taking linear algebra and ordinary differential equations if not already completed.
  • Concerns are raised about the adequacy of mathematics education at community colleges, with a suggestion that some students may feel unprepared despite good grades.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of foundational knowledge in mathematics and physics, but there is no consensus on the best preparatory materials or methods to address the perceived gaps in readiness.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the uncertainty regarding the availability of required materials and the difficulty in contacting professors or TAs before the semester starts. There is also a mention of varying levels of rigor in community college mathematics courses.

Who May Find This Useful

Students transitioning from community colleges to upper division physics courses, particularly those concerned about their mathematical preparedness and seeking resources for review.

Noah BK
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Hi,

In about two weeks I'm starting my Junior year at a UC, after transferring from a community college. I want to review/get ahead before the quarter officially starts, but I'm at a loss of how to do so. I feel like I may be at a disadvantage to other students because my previous courses weren't that difficult.

The two physics classes I'm taking are a (lower division) QM/stat. mechanics and a course on mathematical methods. In particular, the upper division math worries me, because the courses I've taken focused heavily on computation.

What books or online materials would you guys recommend, which would serve as a good primer for the aforementioned classes? Thanks.

Oh and also, the required materials still haven't been posted for my classes, so yeah.
 
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Noah BK said:
What books or online materials would you guys recommend, which would serve as a good primer for the aforementioned classes? Thanks.
Why are you asking us? Find out the contact information of the people who are teaching these classes and ask them. They are in a much better position to inform you.
 
Noah BK said:
The two physics classes I'm taking are a (lower division) QM/stat. mechanics and a course on mathematical methods.
Which UC? Can you link to the information on the classes at the UC website?
Noah BK said:
Oh and also, the required materials still haven't been posted for my classes, so yeah.
It's unlikely they will change the textbook from the previous years' classes. Can you find out which texts they use and skim through it at your local technical library? Or use "Look Inside" at Amazon.com...
kuruman said:
Find out the contact information of the people who are teaching these classes and ask them.
That would be ideal, but it may be hard to get ahold of the professors or TAs for the upcoming classes. Unless he is already on-campus, then he could just walk over and see who he can talk with...
 
I would review Calculus 1,2,3. In my upper division circuits, and EM.Many students had trouble with related rates and Stokes Theorem, respectively for the classes mentioned. Review introductory physics. I cannot stress enough the topics from mechanics needed for the derivations of topics in EM. Have you taken Linear Algebra and Ordinary Differential Equations? If not, you should also take it you're first semester, even if they are not required courses. The topics learned in these two classes are used widely throughout physics. I am majoring in mathematics, but I take physics classes for fun.

How good were you're math classes? If you are coming from a community college in the LACCD, you may be deficient in mathematics, even if you got an A. I worked for these schools...
 

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