Do many asteroids contain materials useful to civilization in abundance?

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The discussion revolves around the potential for mining asteroids for materials that could be valuable to civilization, exploring both the feasibility of such endeavors and the types of materials that may be found in asteroids. Participants consider theoretical, practical, and safety aspects of asteroid mining.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that many asteroids contain valuable materials, with one noting that a single metallic asteroid could hold metals worth more than the world's GDP for hundreds of years.
  • Concerns are raised about the practicality and safety of mining asteroids, with one participant emphasizing the inhospitable nature of space and the potential fatal consequences of mistakes.
  • Participants discuss the challenges of transporting mined materials from an asteroid to Earth, highlighting the high costs associated with launching objects into orbit.
  • There is a suggestion that if mining technology exists for zero-G environments, then manufacturing in space could also be feasible, potentially reducing the need to transport materials back to Earth.
  • Some participants mention the possibility of using mined metals in space rather than bringing them to Earth, proposing the use of slow Hohmann orbits for retrieval.
  • Various materials are identified as potentially available in asteroids, including water, rare earth elements, and organic molecules, though the concentrations depend on the specific type of asteroid.
  • One participant humorously suggests an unconventional method of mining from the Van Allen belts for fuel, indicating a creative approach to resource acquisition in space.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement on the potential abundance of materials in asteroids but disagree on the practicality and safety of mining them. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the feasibility of transporting materials and the specifics of what can be found in large concentrations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the dependence on specific asteroid types for material availability and the unresolved complexities of mining operations in space, including the technological requirements and safety considerations.

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I don't know if this is the correct section or not, but I'll let hosts and mentors decide that.

My question comes as a result of hearing a number of things floating around as to the possibility of mining asteroids for materiasl valuable to space colonies.

Do many asteroids contain materials useful to civilization in abundance, and could they be mined practically and safely?
 
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Originally posted by caumaan
Do many asteroids contain materials useful to civilization in abundance,

Very much yes. A single largish (~1km diameter) metallic asteroid has metals worth more than the Gross Domestic Product of the world for hundreds of years.

and could they be mined practically and safely?

Very much no. Space is the more inhospitable than anything you could think of. Any mistakes or mishaps (which tend to happen from time to time in mining... like almost everyday...) are almost guaranteed to be fatal, perhaps even for the entire crew.

Then there is the minor problem of getting the metals out of their orbit and into ours (or wherever you're planning on moving them to).
 
I don't suppose robotics would have any more application here than in current mines, would they?
 
I'm sure they would. Automation is a huge engineering project, though.

Robots also wear out. It's not as dire if one of them breaks, but it would still kill the mission.

When terrestrial mining equipment breaks down, you call a mechanic. If an asteroid miner breaks down, it's a two year wait until a replacement can be sent (assuming you had one ready to go).
 


Originally posted by enigma
Then there is the minor problem of getting the metals out of their orbit and into ours (or wherever you're planning on moving them to).
To be a little more specific, it costs roughly $10,000 / lb to put an object into orbit. Bringing it back costs roughly the same.
 
I was actually referring to the costs to bring an asteroid from it's own orbit about the sun into our eccentricity and semimajor axis.

There aren't many metallic asteroids in low Earth orbit (unless you consider the ISS of course )

EDIT: If you had metals (caveat: with the means to manufacture them) in orbit, de-orbitting them would be foolish. You've got raw material in a place where it would cost exorbitant amounts to bring new raw materials. Just leave it and manufacture in-situ.

This is all assuming that if we've got the tech to mine asteroids in zero-G, we've got the tech to build stuff in zero-G as well.
 
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If you put the mined metal in a slow Hohmann orbit, with a delta-v at the end to put it in some stable solar orbit close to earth, then it couod be retrieved from there. Since it's so expensive to go up and down from the Earth's surface, it would be more efficient to use the metal in space, either on the moon or in a lagrange facility.
 
So, beyond the huge materials found in asteroids (iron, nickel, etc.), what else can be found there?
 
Water

Rare Earth elements

Organic molecules

You name it, there's an asteroid with it.
 
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Are any of those in large concentrations?
 
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It depends on the asteroid.

It's been a while since I read this book which went into great detail on extraplanetary resources (without being too "Pie-in-the-sky"... a big plus!).

Metallic asteroids have huge reserves of minerals and metals of all sorts.

Comets and (I think they're called:) carbonacious asteroids have reserves of organic molecules and water.
 
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Mine the van-allen belts for fuel, (i don't think something could go wrong with a magnet)
Charge your space-ship up like a capacitor, then wait for the ionised gas to start to 'stick' to your ship, you can then deionise it, compress it, cool it and SELL IT to other rockets $$
 
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Great idea, now all I need is my spaceship...
 

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