Dismiss Notice
Join Physics Forums Today!
The friendliest, high quality science and math community on the planet! Everyone who loves science is here!

Do objects within a galaxy rotate in the same direction as the galxy itself?

  1. May 31, 2012 #1
    Hi, I have been trying to understand the nature of rotating objects within a galaxy, but with limited sucess. I am trying to understand if the rotation of objects (for example solar systems / stars / blackholes within the Milkyway galaxy) are generally consistent with the rotation of the galaxy itself? (i.e. do things generally rotate in the same direction?) And if the answer to this is positive, is it "generally" or "almost always" or "always"?

    Thanking you in anticipation.

    Regards,

    Noel.
     
  2. jcsd
  3. May 31, 2012 #2

    mathman

    User Avatar
    Science Advisor
    Gold Member

    The rotation of the galaxy is defined by averaging the rotation of the stars, etc. within the galaxy. The rotation cannot be defined independently.
     
  4. May 31, 2012 #3
    Thanks mathman. I think I understand, but can I ask the same question in a different way? Is the orbit of planets in our solar system in the same direction as the overall rotation of the Milkyway, & is the orbit of other planets (in other solar systems - but still in the Milkyway) in the same direction (as the Milkyway).

    Regards,

    Noel.
     
  5. May 31, 2012 #4
    (Maybe I should have phrased the question as "is the spin of the star generally in the same direction as the rotation of the galaxy?")
     
  6. May 31, 2012 #5

    marcus

    User Avatar
    Science Advisor
    Gold Member
    Dearly Missed

    The answer is no. There is no alignment of axes.

    The plane of the solar system is TILTED 60 degrees from the plane of the Galaxy.

    I don't know much definite about the orientation of other planet systems. But from what I've read nobody EXPECTS them to have their axes aligned in any special direction. The expectation seems to be that it's basically random.

    Also the SENSE of the rotation is not necessarily consistent.

    Roughly speaking the Solar System N pole (instead of point straight out of the plane of the galaxy, perpendicular "up") is tilted 60 degrees towards the direction that the Sun and her planets are going.
    Now the sense in which the Sun and most of the planets are rotating follows a RIGHT HAND FIST rule, with your thumb in the N pole direction. If you look down on your thumb the fingers are going counterclockwise and that is how the earth is rotating and also how the earth is orbiting, and the sun is rotating, etc.

    But if you tried to align the solarsystem with the galaxy by tilting the solarsystem axis 60 degrees back upright, you would find that even though the axes were parallel the galaxy would be revolving according to a LEFT HAND fist rule. If some aliens would take you on their ship far far above the earth's north pole and you looked back you would see most of the stuff in the solar system rotating and orbiting counterclockwise, but you would see the sun and other stars orbiting the galactic center CLOCKWISE.

    So there is a strong inconsistency. One has to suspect it's random uncorrelated except for nearby things.
     
    Last edited: May 31, 2012
  7. May 31, 2012 #6
    Thanks Marcus.
     
Know someone interested in this topic? Share this thread via Reddit, Google+, Twitter, or Facebook




Similar Discussions: Do objects within a galaxy rotate in the same direction as the galxy itself?
  1. Rotating Galaxies (Replies: 14)

Loading...