Do photons bounce into each other?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the interaction of photons, specifically whether they can "bounce" off each other and the implications of such interactions. The scope includes theoretical considerations and conceptual clarifications regarding photon behavior and scattering.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested, Conceptual clarification, Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why we don't observe "junk" photons if they could bounce off each other, suggesting a potential for significant changes in direction.
  • Another participant asserts that photons do not bounce into one another and can only scatter indirectly, referencing Delbruck scattering as an example.
  • A different viewpoint emphasizes that photons, being massless bosons, do not collide in the conventional sense and can occupy the same space without direct interaction.
  • One participant shares findings from research indicating that laser beams can pass through each other with minimal effect, suggesting a lack of interaction under typical conditions.
  • Another participant proposes that under certain conditions, such as those described in a referenced article, photons could form "photon molecules," implying a possibility for interaction that could resemble bouncing.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of photon interactions, with some asserting that photons do not bounce off each other while others suggest that under specific conditions, interactions may occur. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the extent and nature of these interactions.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the definitions of "collision" and "interaction," as well as the conditions under which photons might behave differently. The implications of scattering theory and the specific conditions for forming photon molecules are not fully explored.

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if photons bounce into each other at a frequent rate, and photons bouncing off of each other may result in large change in direction of motion... then why don't we see "junk" photons? photons that enter our eye not because they bounced off a surface, but instead bounces off of another photon?
 
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Photons don't bounce into one another. They cannot interact with one another directly. They can only scatter off one another indirectly (c.f. Delbruck scattering).

The term "collision" is often used in scattering theory but in that context "collision of particles" translates into "interaction of particles through some potential of finite range" so scattering doesn't necessarily entail an actual collision in the colloquial sense. It's a very poor but ubiquitous terminology.
 
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Not in the conventional sense. Having no mass, they do not collide as other particles would, especially if you look on the macroscopic level. They do interact, but remember that they are bosons, not fermions. They can, and do, occupy the same physical space as other photons.
 
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I found this an interesting question so poked around the internet a bit (acesuv, I encourage you to do a bit of your own research on questions like this) and found that you can even shoot laser beams through each other with basically no effect.
 
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