Do professors allow outsiders to assist with research

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the possibility of individuals with a bachelor's degree in physics, but lacking research experience, being allowed to assist professors with research at a university. The scope includes considerations of academic policies, funding requirements, and the qualifications necessary for such positions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether a professor would allow a non-student to fill an undergraduate research position, suggesting that enrollment as a full-time student is typically necessary.
  • Another participant notes that funding sources often favor or require students enrolled at the university, making it easier for professors to employ them.
  • A third participant mentions that some professors may hire research assistants based on their skill set, implying that having a bachelor's degree in physics could qualify someone for such positions.
  • There is a suggestion that seeking unpaid internships might be a viable alternative for gaining research experience and obtaining letters of recommendation for graduate school.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the likelihood of non-students being hired for research positions, with some emphasizing institutional policies and others highlighting the potential for individual circumstances to vary.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on specific university policies, the variability of professors' needs, and the lack of clarity on the exact qualifications that might be necessary for research positions.

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I have a bachelor's in physics but I wasn't great as a student and didn't do research. Do you think a professor at the University near me would allow me to fill an undergraduate research position so I could eventually use that experience and relationship as a reference for graduate school?
 
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I seriously doubt it unless you were enrolled as a fulltime student.
 
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I have a bachelor's in physics but I wasn't great as a student and didn't do research. Do you think a professor at the University near me would allow me to fill an undergraduate research position so I could eventually use that experience and relationship as a reference for graduate school?

In most cases, their sources of funding either highly favor or require their undergrads to be students at the university. Employing students is easier than employing non-students. In some cases of students we work with, they even need to be enrolled in summer courses to work in university labs over the summer, though not all schools have this policy.

If you need research experience or good letters of recommendation to apply to graduate school, your best bet may be to seek positions as an unpaid intern.
 
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A lot can depend on the needs of the professor and the skill set you bring to the table too.

A professor probably isn't going to stick his or her neck out just to give a non-student some research experience. But sometimes professors hire research assistants. Having a bachelors degree in physics might qualify you for that kind of a job. What skills do you have?
 
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