Do Seismic Reflections Reveal Velocity Information in Layer 3?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around whether seismic reflections can provide information about the velocity of layer 3 in a geological context. Participants explore the implications of reflection and refraction of seismic waves in relation to the velocities of different layers, particularly focusing on layer 3.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that reflections from layer 3 do not provide velocity information, arguing that they only indicate the composition of the layer since the source reflects off it.
  • Another participant proposes that reflections could indicate that layer 3 has a significantly slower velocity than layer 2, as the wave chooses to travel through layer 2 instead.
  • A third viewpoint introduces the possibility that the source may travel through layer 3 but dissipates within it, preventing any reflection from being detected.
  • Participants express a need for a diagram to better visualize the relationships between the layers and the source angles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus among participants regarding whether seismic reflections can reveal velocity information about layer 3. Multiple competing views are presented, with some arguing against the possibility while others support it.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of the topic, with discussions involving assumptions about the behavior of seismic waves and the effects of layer composition on wave propagation.

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Homework Statement


The question is set up by a diagram.

It has:

Layer 1 velocity = 6km/s
Layer 2 = calculated velocity of 7.58 km.s
Layer 3 = reflection

The angle of the source in layer 1 is 34 degrees, the angle in layer two is then 52.33 degrees
The source then reflects off of layer 3.

Question: Do these reflections tell you anything about the velocities in layer 3?

Homework Equations


Snells law

The Attempt at a Solution



I am thinking two things:
1) Either the answer is NO, it does not tell us about the velocity, it only tells us about the composition in that the source does not travel through it, but reflects off of it.
2) YES it does tell us about the velocity of layer three because it does not go through it, so layer three must be significantly slower.

I am tending to agree more with argument one, any help here?
 
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hi there

is there an actual diagram you can post ?
just struggling to visualise the location of the source relative to the 3 layers and also the orientation of
the layers to each otherDave
 
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Thank you :)
 
Wouldn't reflection mean that layer 3 is much slower velocity than layer two and so the wave chooses to go through layer 2?

Or is entirely the composition of the layer that dictates it.
 
Thanks for the diagram :smile:

I will be honest with you, its been 20 yrs since I have done any seismic reflection/refraction stuff a way back in my uni days
an pretty rusty. a lot easier for me to help in your other thread on seismic waves

RJLiberator said:
I am thinking two things:
1) Either the answer is NO, it does not tell us about the velocity, it only tells us about the composition in that the source does not travel through it, but reflects off of it.

2) YES it does tell us about the velocity of layer three because it does not go through it, so layer three must be significantly slower

or consider a 3rd option

Either the answer is NO, it does not tell us about the velocity, it does not tell us about the composition, the source does travel through it, but is dissipated within the layer (3) not reaching any other layer to reflect off. Also the angle of any signal reflected off the L2/L3 boundary is not picked up by the receiver ( when dealing with the angles specified)

have a read of this link --- it may well help and it will also give me a refresher course :wink:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflection_seismologycheers
Dave
 

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