Do wooden wall or window glass give good protection from penetrating radiation

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The discussion revolves around the effectiveness of wooden walls and window glass in providing protection from penetrating radiation, specifically gamma rays. Participants explore various aspects of radiation shielding, including the types of radiation, material properties, and practical implications in contexts like residential safety near nuclear facilities.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that wood can stop beta particles and window glass can stop low-energy beta particles, but both are inadequate for gamma rays, which require significant thickness for effective shielding.
  • There is a query regarding the specific thickness of material needed to reduce radiation exposure to 1%, with participants indicating that this depends on the type of radiation and energy levels.
  • One participant suggests that underground shelters might provide some protection from radiation emitted from a reactor, while also raising concerns about smoke particles that could carry radiation into homes.
  • A participant shares their experience with X-ray diffraction and expresses a lack of expertise in radiation protection, seeking data on gamma and X-ray transmittance for wood and glass.
  • Another participant discusses the importance of distance from a radiation source, referencing the inverse square law and its implications for radiation exposure.
  • Common analogies are provided to explain how different types of radiation interact with materials, with alpha particles being stopped by clothing, beta particles by skin, and gamma rays being attenuated by denser materials like lead.
  • Concerns are raised about internal contamination from inhaled or ingested radioactive materials, emphasizing the need for protective measures against both external and internal sources of radiation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the effectiveness of wooden walls and window glass against radiation, with no consensus reached on the adequacy of these materials for shielding against gamma rays. The discussion includes multiple competing perspectives on shielding effectiveness and safety measures.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight that the effectiveness of shielding depends on various factors, including the type of radiation, energy levels, and material properties. There are also unresolved questions regarding specific measurements and data on radiation transmittance through wood and glass.

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Do wooden wall or window glass give good protection from penetrating radiation such as gamma rays?
 
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e2718281 said:
Do wooden wall or window glass give good protection from penetrating radiation such as gamma rays?
Wood would stop beta particles, and window glass would stop low energy betas. Both would stop alpha particles - but that is not an issue now.

Gamma rays are highly penetrating, and it would take many inches - on the order of a foot or more to provide adequate protection for beta radiation. Distance is another factor.

The greater the beta or gamma ray energy, the greater the thickness needed for shielding.
 
thank you, Astronuc.

for example, to decrease the radiation to 1%, how much thickness is necessary?
(Most Japanese houses are made ​​of wood...)
 
e2718281 said:
thank you, Astronuc.

for example, to decrease the radiation to 1%, how much thickness is necessary?
(Most Japanese houses are made ​​of wood...)
Thickness depends on the type of material and whether or not the source is beta, gamma or a combination, and their respective energies. The thicker the better.
 
I am assuming this is for rays that are emitted from reactor location. In that case possibly an underground shelter provides some protection. How about smoke particles that settle though. How much radiation would you expect those particles would emit considering they could easily be brought in by the survivors or carried in the air?
 
Quick reference for radiation exposure and shielding:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_protection"
 
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I have used X-ray diffraction for crystalline analysis. I know how to protect the body from radiation in the lab. But I am not specialist in radiation.

In Fukushima, residents living within 20km (~13 miles) of the nuclear station must evacuate their homes. But they naturally don't have materials for radiation protection such as lead glass,
and their houses are made of wood unfortunately.
So please let me know If anybody have gamma rays or x-rays transmittance data for wood and glass.
Of course, I also am searching papers.
 
The BEST possible protection from radioactivity is distance from the source. Doubling the distance from the source will reduce the received radiation to 1/4 I believe. Tripling the distance should reduce the dose to 1/9. I think it follows the inverse square law. (or whatever it's called. Hope that math was right) Unfortunently if the radioactive materials get spread out due to wind and whatnot, then the source is pretty much on/inside you. =(
 
Common analogies are:

Alpha is stopped by your clothing.
Beta is stopped by the top layers of your skin.
Gamma is attenuated (reduced) by water / lead, etc.

Alphas are actually ionized 2He4 particles, which are relatively large - and therefore stopped by just about everything.

Betas are actually electrons, so they interact fairly quickly and are absorbed.

Gammas are energy, and the intensity of the gamma stream is reduced by 1/10th for each "10th" thickness of a material. Lead attenuates them really fast (relatively) since it's so dense... water pretty quickly... and the body not so much.

Hence if you have a material that is two "tenth-thicknesses" in thickness, the resulting gamma energy would be 1% of the energy entering the material. (10% * 10% * Energy).

It is worth noting however, that if you ingest / inhale contamination (radioactive materials), you will be irradiated from the inside...
 
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myth_kill said:
It is worth noting however, that if you ingest / inhale contamination (radioactive materials), you will be irradiated from the inside...
The reason that people are supposed to stay inside is so that:

1) radiation from the atmosphere does not shine on them
2) radioactive particles do not settle on them, which is an external source at the skin
3) radioactive particles/gases are not inhaled, which would irradiate from within.

Iodine is taken up by the thyroid gland. KI put nonradioactive I in the system to prevent uptake of radioiodide.

Rb and Cs behave like Na and K, and Sr and Ba behave like Ca, so it's important to minimize the uptake of the radiosotopes of those elements, which could be taken up in the body and cause damage where Na, K or Ca are used in the body.
 

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