Do you have to be an expert make an original contribution

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The discussion revolves around the challenges and possibilities of making original contributions to scientific fields without being an established expert. Participants explore the dynamics of criticism, the necessity of expertise, and the barriers faced by those attempting to introduce new theories or ideas.

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  • Some participants suggest that while it is easy to criticize existing theories, proposing a better alternative is significantly more challenging.
  • There are various conditions under which a new theory might be taken seriously by the expert community, including having a reputable co-author or being recognized as an expert oneself.
  • One participant notes that familiarity with the field is essential for contextualizing new discoveries and assessing them against existing research.
  • Concerns are raised about the stigma associated with being labeled a "crackpot," which can hinder serious consideration of new ideas.
  • Several participants emphasize the importance of providing proof and logical reasoning to support any criticisms or new theories proposed.
  • A participant describes their personal struggle to re-enter the academic field after a long absence, feeling that their substantial but unconventional theory is not being taken seriously.
  • There is a suggestion that valid criticism requires a certain level of competence and understanding of the subject matter being critiqued.

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Participants express a range of views on the feasibility of making original contributions without being an expert. There is no clear consensus on the conditions necessary for new theories to be accepted or the role of expertise in criticism.

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Some participants highlight the difficulty of gaining recognition in a highly specialized and competitive environment, as well as the potential biases against unconventional ideas. The discussion reflects a variety of personal experiences and opinions regarding the intersection of expertise and innovation.

  • #31
rewebster said:
yes---but the point is, how many experiments did Einstein do, himself, relating to his theories before he published his paper(s) , or to 'prove' his paper(s)?

Asking anyone who has a hypothesis/theory to prove 'by experiment' that theory isn't necessary. It just has to have merits (and still may not be 'right'--it's just got to be 'more right' than the existing ones) that may or can be proved later, as in string theory (which still may never be proved).

There was a period of 'years' between the hypothesis and the experiment for the starlight bending around the sun---and, still, Einstein did not do the experiment himself.
Please tell us. http://www.einstein-website.de/z_physics/wisspub-e.html

Zz's point is that the burden of proof is on the individual making a claim.
 
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  • #32
I think there's a difference between Einstein and harryjoon. Einstein didn't argue that the reason that previous experiments agreed with Newton was that they were done wrong and needed to be modified to get the correct result. He argued that Newtonian mechanics was a low-velocity limit of SR.

In this case, we have a claim that the experiments need to be modified to get the right answer. Given this, I think a fair question is "what is your background in experimental physics."
 
  • #33
rewebster said:
OK, Z

Why don't you list ALL of the properly conducted experiments that Einstein did

He did none. But why is it relevant here?

Einstein did not claim that ALL of the previous experiments were "wrong". Einstein also did not claim to be a "laymen" with no training on physics BUT somehow was able to come with some amazing theory that is "correct". If he did that, I would ask him the SAME thing.

Zz.
 
  • #34
This thread is now in violation of the guidelines against overly speculative posts. Closed.
 

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