Doctors and patients relationship

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between doctors and patients, particularly in the context of mental health treatment. Participants explore the implications of medication versus therapy, the role of insurance companies, and the ethical considerations surrounding diagnoses in mental health settings.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express concern that medications for brain-related issues may be overused, suggesting that underlying life problems should be addressed instead.
  • Others argue that doctors may actually earn more from therapy than from prescribing medications, attributing the preference for medications to insurance companies rather than medical professionals.
  • A viewpoint is presented that emphasizes the importance of recognizing physiological imbalances that could contribute to mental health issues, suggesting that therapy alone may not be sufficient for recovery.
  • One participant notes that while drugs can provide hope and improve physical health, there is a need to consider the broader implications of labeling individuals with mental illnesses.
  • Concerns are raised about the appropriateness of assigning mental illnesses immediately upon admission to hospitals, questioning the ethics of such diagnoses.
  • Another participant highlights the role of psychiatric hospitals in stabilizing patients rather than providing definitive diagnoses, emphasizing the importance of follow-up care.
  • Commercialism is mentioned as a factor influencing the healthcare system and the emotional well-being of individuals.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the efficacy and ethics of medication versus therapy in mental health treatment. There is no consensus on the best approach or the implications of labeling mental illnesses.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge various assumptions about the causes of mental health issues, the role of commercialism, and the responsibilities of healthcare providers. The discussion reflects a range of perspectives on the complexities of mental health treatment.

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when i think of Medications for brain related "diseses" I feel that their stimulating a part of the brain synthetically.
Which I feel is the choice of the patient to use or not. I think that for some, the diseses are there from problems
In their life that they have not gotten over. They have somehow shut that past out of their memories since it
hurt so much or the people they needed weren't there any more. I feel a lot of doctors these days would like to
use there patients for money specifically hospitals and clincs for mental heath care. They would rather see them all druged up than see them really deal with what's troubling them. It's a sick thought but it is true in some cases. It's nobody real fault it's just how the system works at at times. People can change by asking the right questions, by seeing it through the hard way. Not given into it
but threading it into your life like magic.
 
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Actually, doctors make much more money from therapy than drugs. If you want to blame somebody, blame insurance companies. They are the ones who benefit from choosing medications over therapy.

Also, many people really do just have a physiological problem that affects their mind. Is it really suprising? You can have physical problems that give you the wrong insulin levels, or the wrong blood clotting levels, why not the wrong seratonin levels?

Njorl
 
You also have to be careful that people are not attributing their problems in life to things that are not actually causing it. if a person does have an imbalance in their brian that they are not aware of that is causeing depression, they will attribute that depression to their social situation, not the imbalance (as they are not aware of it and go on experiential feeling) Experience is fallable and not always a good tool for fixing a mind. So, fix the imbalance, and then the person will suddenly feel better. they will still have to deal with the social problem they attributed their depression to, because by now they have made a social situation - depression link, and thinking of it will trigger depressed feelings via habit. so these we should deal with. but often therapy on its own will not be sufficient for a real recovery... a duel method approach can be most favourable... but of course, it should awlawys be the patients choice unless they are in danger of hurting themselves/ others.
 
admitedly, insurance companies do get wealthy off the misfortunes of other people, but drugs can help people live as physically healthy people even if they are born with a defect or suffers from trauma or parylysis. drugs give hope to people, and hope is what is in short supply in this world right now.
 
doctors and patients relationship

since there's been talk in the social science forum of what mental illness is. I would like to talk about the relationship of the patient staff relationship in mental hospitals. Since the hospitals and clinics are who give the disorders to the people from the begining. Is it always right to slap an illness on a person right away? Remember this could be an illness that effects the persons life dramatically. Do Hospitals let patients out without a illness associated to them?
 


Originally posted by mikelus
since there's been talk in the social science forum of what mental illness is. I would like to talk about the relationship of the patient staff relationship in mental hospitals. Since the hospitals and clinics are who give the disorders to the people from the begining. Is it always right to slap an illness on a person right away? Remember this could be an illness that effects the persons life dramatically. Do Hospitals let patients out without a illness associated to them?

Hospitals in general are to stabilise a patient and treat life threatening acute illnesses, not necessarily to always arrive at the exact diagnosis...that can be done on an outpatient basis. As it applies to psychiatric hospitals,this is also true. If someone is hallucinating and wants to harm others or oneself, wether it is due to a drug induced hallucinogenic effect, a schizophrenic breakdown, bipolar disorder, psychosis induced by something as simple as sleep deprivation or just a "bad day", the job of the hospital is to try to stabilise that person and ensure his or her safety. Then, upon discharge, with close followup with a psycologist, social worker or psychiatrist, things can be fine tuned.
 
Originally posted by Njorl
Actually, doctors make much more money from therapy than drugs. If you want to blame somebody, blame insurance companies.

Hi Njorl, actually if you are looking to blame somebody then you are looking at the wrong association. You should just blame commercialism for the effect it is having on human emotions and direction. It is commercialism that drives value in your world.
 

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