Does accretion reduce the magnetic field of a neutron star?

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The discussion revolves around the effects of accretion on the magnetic field of a neutron star, exploring whether the magnetic field strength decreases during the accretion process and how gravitational and magnetic forces interact in this context. The scope includes theoretical considerations and conceptual clarifications regarding plasma dynamics, magnetic fields, and gravitational influences.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the energy for radiation during accretion may come from the gravitational potential energy of the accreted plasma, questioning whether the magnetic field expends energy in this process.
  • Others argue that a magnetic field does not do work on moving charges, as the force is perpendicular to their motion, raising questions about how pressure from accretion might affect the magnetic field.
  • Some participants suggest that gravity does not directly affect a magnetic field, but it may exert forces on plasma that could influence magnetic field lines above the neutron star's equator.
  • A later reply discusses the dynamics of plasma near a neutron star, noting that gravity is a significant factor and that incoming material could potentially slow the star's rotation, possibly affecting the magnetic field.
  • One participant mentions that charged particles contained by a magnetic field could influence the field's configuration, suggesting an indirect relationship between gravity and the magnetic field through these particles.
  • There is a contention regarding the terminology used to describe the interaction between pressure and the magnetic field, with some advocating for a distinction between "pushing" and "pulling" the magnetic field.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need to consider Maxwell's Equations when discussing the effects of forces on magnetic fields.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views on how accretion affects the magnetic field of a neutron star, with no consensus reached on the mechanisms involved or the terminology used to describe these interactions.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include unresolved assumptions about the interactions between gravitational forces, plasma dynamics, and magnetic fields, as well as the dependence on specific definitions and interpretations of physical concepts.

Bernie G
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When a large amount of plasma radiates greatly while accreting on a magnetized neutron star, where does the radiation ultimately get its energy from, the magnetic field and/or gravitational field? Without doing the numbers, if the magnetic field does the work against the gravitational field, and assuming the neutron star only has an inherited magnetic field, would the magnetic field strength decrease a little as a result of the accretion?
 
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I’d like to modify the above question. The radiation gets its energy from the change in gravitational potential energy of the accreted plasma. Does the magnetic field expend energy during the accretion process? Maybe the answer is simply no but any thoughts on this would be appreciated.
 
If I remember my classical electromagnetism correctly, a magnetic field doesn't do any work on a moving charge, as the force is perpendicular to the motion.
 
Jonathan Scott said:
If I remember my classical electromagnetism correctly, a magnetic field doesn't do any work on a moving charge, as the force is perpendicular to the motion.

Could the pressure from the accretion be large enough to push some of the magnetic field into the surface of the neutron star?
 
Bernie G said:
Could the pressure from the accretion be large enough to push some of the magnetic field into the surface of the neutron star?
How do you push a magnetic field with pressure? The question doesn't make sense to me.
 
Gravity does not directly affect a magnetic field and normally gravity could not push a magnetic field. But above the neutron star equator gravity would exert great downward force on the plasma and hence the magnetic field lines. Does that make sense?
 
Bernie G said:
Gravity does not directly affect a magnetic field and normally gravity could not push a magnetic field. But above the neutron star equator gravity would exert great downward force on the plasma and hence the magnetic field lines. Does that make sense?
Well, perhaps in a vague hand-waving sort of way, but it all seems a bit mixed up.

I'm not an expert on this, but based on what I remember from student days...

Basically, as I presume you know, gravity pulls stuff in, angular momentum speeds it up, friction heats it up to plasma and charged stuff tends to follow magnetic field lines while being accelerated by gravity and coriolis forces, and that current flow can modify the existing magnetic field (as well as leading to jets). Material which is in free fall is not likely to be at high pressure, and if the material initially had significant angular momentum it may initially go into orbit and only gradually be dispersed inwards. The intense magnetic field of a neutron star is mostly created by the initial contraction to form the neutron star which speeds up the rotation rate. The magnetic field may possibly be reduced by incoming material subsequently slowing the rotation. I don't personally know anything about the way in which the motion of plasma is expected to modify the magnetic field.
 
The model I normally use for gyrotating plasma is primarily electrons are magnetically contained, the ions are mostly electrostaticaly coupled to the electrons, and gravity has a negligible effect on this ion-electron mix. But near a neutron star gravity is the prime mover on the ion-electron mix. Wouldn’t large perpendicular force be exerted on the magnetic field lines above the equator? There the magnetic field lines are what supports the plasma.
 
I'd agree that if material is deflected by the magnetic field, then there is an equal and opposite force somewhere, effectively back on the source of the field. However, a magnetic field isn't something you can "push" on in the mechanical sense. You can obviously modify it, including changing the intensity and distribution, by adding currents and other magnetic sources. I've not studied this particular case and I can't say anything more about it, sorry.
 
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"A magnetic field isn't something you can "push" on in the mechanical sense."

I disagree at least for now. Gravity can't directly push or pull a magnetic field, but charged particles contained by the magnetic field could push or pull the magnetic field. If these charged particles are affected by another force, say pulled by gravity, gravity should then be indirectly pulling on the magnetic field via the contained particles.
 
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Above instead of opining "the pressure from the accretion could be large enough to PUSH some of the magnetic field into the surface of the neutron star" it should have said "the gravitational force on the accretion could be large enough to PULL some of the magnetic field into the surface of the neutron star"
 
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Bernie G said:
charged particles contained by the magnetic field could push or pull the magnetic field.

The motion of charges can certainly affect the magnetic field. I don't know that "push or pull" is the best way of describing the effect, though.

Bernie G said:
instead of opining "the pressure from the accretion could be large enough to PUSH some of the magnetic field into the surface of the neutron star" it should have said "the gravitational force on the accretion could be large enough to PULL some of the magnetic field into the surface of the neutron star"

Neither of these seem like apt descriptions to me. For example: what effect would either "pushing" or "pulling" the magnetic field into the surface of the neutron star have on the field strength? Your hand-waving model doesn't give any answer to that question, as far as I can see.

You might want to take a step back and think about Maxwell's Equations.
 

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