Does Boundedness Affect the Radius of Convergence for Subtracted Power Series?

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The discussion revolves around the radius of convergence for power series, specifically focusing on the implications of subtracting two convergent power series and the effects of boundedness on their difference. Participants explore theoretical aspects of convergence within the open unit disk, including conditions under which the radius of convergence may be affected.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the implications of subtracting two power series and whether the radius of convergence for their difference can be determined.
  • Another participant suggests that the subtraction can be viewed as addition of the negative series, indicating a potential equivalence in reasoning.
  • It is proposed that if both original power series converge, their difference will also converge, implying that the radius of convergence is at least the minimum of the original series' radii.
  • Participants discuss the significance of boundedness on compact subsets of the disk, with one expressing uncertainty about whether boundedness provides additional information beyond convergence.
  • Concerns are raised about the boundedness of power series in the open disk, with an example provided where a series converges but is unbounded as it approaches the boundary.
  • One participant speculates on whether power series converge absolutely uniformly on compact sets within their radius of convergence, suggesting that absolute convergence would imply uniform convergence.
  • A later reply confirms that power series do converge absolutely uniformly on compact sets of their radius of convergence.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the role of boundedness in determining the radius of convergence, with some suggesting it may not add further constraints while others indicate it could influence convergence behavior near the boundary. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the necessity and implications of boundedness.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that while power series are continuous and bounded on compact sets, the relationship between convergence in the open disk and boundedness is not straightforward. There are examples of power series that are convergent but unbounded as they approach the boundary of the disk.

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Say we have two power series [itex]\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}a_n z^n[/itex] and [itex]\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}b_n z^n[/itex] which both converge in the open unit disk. Is there anything we can say about the radius of convergence of the power series formed by their difference? i.e. [itex]\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}(a_n-b_n) z^n[/itex]

What about if we know that their difference is bounded on compact sets? i.e. [itex]|\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}(a_n-b_n) z^n| < M[/itex] for all z in a compact subset of the open unit disk.
 
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Given that you're so focused on subtraction as opposed to addition, does nothing that
[tex]\sum a_n z^n - \sum b_n z^n = \sum a_n z^n + \sum (-b_n) z^n[/tex]
answer your questions?
 
Um, they seem to be equivalent so I can't see any reason why what you've proposed wouldn't be ok.
 
OK I thought maybe you were confused about how subtraction works as opposed to addition.

If we're adding two power series, as long as both power series converge their sum converges (you should be able to prove this using that limits split into sums). So as long as both of your power series converge, the new one will - hence the radius of convergence is AT LEAST the minimum of the radius of convergence of the orginal two series

For the second question, are you saying it converges on every compact subset of the disk? If so then clearly the radius of convergence is at least 1
 
Yes every compact subset of the disk, although I think without the assumption of boundedness what you've given me should be sufficient for my purposes, thanks =].

Actually I'm curious though, does the boundedness assumption give us anything more in this case? It doesn't seem like it would since if we already know it's convergent on the disk then it must be bounded there as well.

Oh shoot, also while I have your attention, does a power series converge absolutely uniformly on compact sets of its radius of convergence? I'm guessing it does since absolute convergence would create another power series with the same radius of convergence, meaning it converges uniformly on compact sets of that disk.
 
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Actually I'm curious though, does the boundedness assumption give us anything more in this case? It doesn't seem like it would since if we already know it's convergent on the disk then it must be bounded there as well.

No, if we know it's convergent on the OPEN disk we don't know it's bounded there. For example [tex]\sum z^k = 1/(1-z)[/tex] is a power series which converges on the open disk but is not bounded (for example of z is a positive real number it goes to infinity as z goes to 1). Power series are continuous, so we know on each compact set it's going to be bounded, but if it's bounded by the same number on all the compact subsets of the unit disk then I suspect you can prove that it converges on the boundary of the disk as well (proof not forthcoming). Wikipedia has an example of a power series which is bounded on the unit disk but has radius of convergence 1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radius_of_convergence#Convergence_on_the_boundary

Oh shoot, also while I have your attention, does a power series converge absolutely uniformly on compact sets of its radius of convergence? I'm guessing it does since absolute convergence would create another power series with the same radius of convergence, meaning it converges uniformly on compact sets of that disk.

Yes it does
 

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