Does Changing Indices Affect the Formula for a Geometric Series?

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The discussion centers on the effects of changing indices in summation notation on the resulting closed formula for a geometric series. Participants explore how to express a geometric series in different forms and whether these transformations yield consistent results.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about how changing indices in summations affects the closed formula for a geometric series, using the example of the series ##\displaystyle \frac{1}{2} + \frac{1}{4} + \frac{1}{8} + \dots + \frac{1}{2^n}##.
  • Another participant suggests that changing the indices leads to the expression ##\displaystyle \sum_{k=0}^{n-1}(\frac{1}{2})^{k+1}##, which can be factored as ##\displaystyle \frac{1}{2}\sum_{k=0}^{n-1}(\frac{1}{2})^{k}##.
  • There is a question about whether this transformation results in the same closed formula, with a participant proposing that it could be ##\displaystyle \frac{\frac{1}{2} (1 - (\frac{1}{2})^{n}) }{1 - \frac{1}{2}}##.
  • Another participant asserts that changing the indices does not alter the value of the summation, provided the sum converges.
  • One participant emphasizes that changing indices won't change the formula for the sum as long as the meaning of the variables remains consistent.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether changing indices always results in the same formula for the sum. While some suggest consistency in results, others raise questions about the implications of changing indices.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not fully resolve the implications of changing indices, and there are assumptions about the convergence of the series that remain unexamined.

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I have always been a bit confused about how changing indices in a summations changes the resulting closed formula.

Take this geometric series as an example: ##\displaystyle \frac{1}{2} + \frac{1}{4} + \frac{1}{8} + \dots + \frac{1}{2^n}##. Putting it into summation notation, we have ##\displaystyle \sum_{k = 1}^{n} (\frac{1}{2})^k##. Converting a little bit, we get ##\displaystyle \sum_{k = 1}^{n} \frac{1}{2} (\frac{1}{2})^{k - 1}##, which fits nicely into the formula for a geometric series: ##\displaystyle \frac{\frac{1}{2} (1 - (\frac{1}{2})^n)}{1 - \frac{1}{2}}##.

However, what if we wanted to change the indices so that we start from zero? Then we would have ##\displaystyle \sum_{k = 0}^{n - 1} (\frac{1}{2})^{k + 1}##. How would we convert this expression to get a closed form for the series?
 
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\sum_{k=0}^{n-1}(\frac{1}{2})^{k+1}=\frac{1}{2}\sum_{k=0}^{n-1}(\frac{1}{2})^{k}
 
mathman said:
\sum_{k=0}^{n-1}(\frac{1}{2})^{k+1}=\frac{1}{2}\sum_{k=0}^{n-1}(\frac{1}{2})^{k}
Would this then be ##\displaystyle \frac{\frac{1}{2} (1 - (\frac{1}{2})^{n}) }{1 - \frac{1}{2}}##? Is always the case that changing the indices results in the same formula?
 
mathman said:
\sum_{k=0}^{n-1}(\frac{1}{2})^{k+1}=\frac{1}{2}\sum_{k=0}^{n-1}(\frac{1}{2})^{k}
Mr Davis 97 said:
Would this then be ##\displaystyle \frac{\frac{1}{2} (1 - (\frac{1}{2})^{n}) }{1 - \frac{1}{2}}##? Is always the case that changing the indices results in the same formula?
Changing the indices doesn't change the value that the summation converges to, assuming the sum converges.
 
Mr Davis 97 said:
Would this then be ##\displaystyle \frac{\frac{1}{2} (1 - (\frac{1}{2})^{n}) }{1 - \frac{1}{2}}##? Is always the case that changing the indices results in the same formula?

Changing the indices won't change the formula for the sum provided you don't change the meaning of the variables in the formula for the sum. In your example , "n" keeps the same meaning when you change indices.
 

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