Does density affect the buoyancy of submerged objects?

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The discussion revolves around the effects of density on the buoyancy of submerged objects, specifically focusing on a scenario involving an irregular lump of material submerged in different fluids. Participants explore the relationship between the mass of the displaced fluid and the buoyant force acting on the object.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants attempt to determine the direction of movement of the submerged lump based on its mass relative to the displaced fluid. Questions arise about the role of fluid density in buoyancy and whether it affects the outcome when using fluids of varying densities.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the factors affecting buoyant force, such as the mass of the fluid and gravitational acceleration. There is an ongoing exploration of how changes in fluid density influence buoyancy, with some seeking clarification on specific cases and concepts.

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Participants are discussing the implications of density changes in fluids and how these relate to buoyancy without reaching a definitive conclusion. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their understanding and seeks confirmation of their reasoning.

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Homework Statement


We fully submerge an irregular 3 kg lump of material in a certain fluid. The fluid that would have been in the space now occupied by the lump has a mass of 2 kg. a) When we release the lump, does it move upward, downward, or remain in place? b) If we next fully submerge it in less dense fluid and again release it, what does it do?

Homework Equations


Fb=mfg

The Attempt at a Solution


For a) I just assumed that Fg is > b since the mass of the lump is greater than the mass of the water displaced.
I know that for b) it also goes downward, but why? Does density simply not matter because it's not factored into the equation for buoyancy or would the result be different if we submerged the lump in a fluid that is more dense?
 
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What are the factors buoyant force is dependent on ? and what factors remain constant when when we use a less or more dense liquid instead of the one we are using now?
 
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Suraj M said:
What are the factors buoyant force is dependent on and what factors remain constant when when we use a less or more dense liquid instead of the one we are using now

Well, Fb is dependent on mass of the fluid and g. Mass=ρV.. So as density of the fluid increases, so does its mass and therefore, its buoyancy? But if it decreases, the mass decreases as well so Fg will be even greater than Fb and the object will definitely go downward...? Is this correct?

Btw, thanks for the help!
 
Velouria555 said:
Well, Fb is dependent on mass of the fluid and g. Mass=ρV.. So as density of the fluid increases, so does its mass and therefore, its buoyancy? But if it decreases, the mass decreases as well so Fg will be even greater than Fb and the object will definitely go downward...? Is this correct?
Yes. What is the borderline case?
 
Your answer is right, I was just responding to this
Velouria555 said:
Does density simply not matter because it's not factored into the equation for buoyancy or would the result be different if we submerged the lump in a fluid that is more dense?


Hope you got your answer.
 
haruspex said:
Yes. What is the borderline case?

Hi haruspex! Sorry, I'm not sure that I understand. Borderline case as in...?
 
Suraj M said:
Your answer is right, I was just responding to this


Hope you got your answer.
I believe so, thanks for your help! Sometimes I feel completely certain I know how to solve a problem in physics only to be totally wrong so I appreciate your confirmation that I was going in the right direction :)
 
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Velouria555 said:
Hi haruspex! Sorry, I'm not sure that I understand. Borderline case as in...?
You considered a case where density is more than or less than then that leaves out a borderline case right? Something in between?
 

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