Does experiencing a static shock mean that you are grounded?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the implications of experiencing a static shock when touching a doorknob and whether this indicates sufficient grounding for safely handling electrical components. Participants explore the nature of static electricity, grounding methods, and the potential risks associated with static discharge in electronic contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if a static shock from touching a doorknob means they are grounded enough to handle electrical components, suggesting uncertainty about the grounding process.
  • Another participant advocates for using a ground strap on the wrist, noting that static can build up from everyday activities like moving in clothes.
  • A participant shares a personal anecdote about using improvised grounding methods with handcuffs and automotive wire, highlighting the risks of static discharge in their work environment.
  • It is noted that a static shock does not guarantee a return to zero volts, and that grounding to the specific circuit's ground is necessary before handling sensitive electronics.
  • Some participants emphasize that not feeling a shock does not mean a circuit is undamaged, as damage may not be immediately apparent.
  • There is a suggestion that the ground potential for a person may differ from that of the electronic circuit, indicating a need for proper grounding methods.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether experiencing a static shock indicates sufficient grounding. While some suggest that additional grounding methods are necessary, others share personal experiences that complicate the understanding of grounding adequacy. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best practices for grounding in relation to static electricity.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the variability in grounding effectiveness based on different conditions, such as the type of flooring and the specific electronic components involved. There is also mention of the potential for undetected damage to electronics, which adds complexity to the discussion.

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If I built up static in me and then touch a doorknob and get shocked, am I then sufficiently grounded to be able to touch electrical components?
Or was it just that the extra electrons were discharged and I should still ground myself in another way before touching electrical components?
 
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I believe a ground strap on your wrist is the proper method. Just moving around with clothes on can cause static electricity.
 
I second that. One discharge clears you only until you build up more. Believe it or not, something as seemingly innocuous as sneezing can build a charge. Rather than buy a strap when I worked in the sign shop (and believe me, a rubber squeegee squishing vinyl ink through a polyester mesh onto a vinyl substrate creates something that will throw a spark more than 1/2 metre), I just disassembled one of my sets of handcuffs and reconnected them with coiled #10 automotive wire. One cuff on my wrist and one on the press cleared everything.

Well... Occupational Health and Safety did actually (I'm serious) receive an anonymous tip that someone was being held as slave labour in a sign shop... My boss subsequently made me stop using it.

edit: added a factor that I forgot the first time and corrected the spelling of "squeegee".
 
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So were you handcuffed to your machine?
 
jedishrfu said:
So were you handcuffed to your machine?
Yeah. I removed the chain from my cuffs. Then I took a spool of #10 auto wire from my workbench (at home) and wound it around a 1/4" dowel to form it into a "spring" like an old-style telephone receiver cord. The last step was to connect one end of the wire to each cuff so as to make a complete circuit from one end to the other.
To be clear, there was never any possibility of a mishap. For one thing, the wire was just wrapped around the chain-mount lanyard on each cuff with no soldering, so it would have torn away under any hint of force. Also, I used my "sex cuffs" :blushing: rather than my real ones; they had a small push-lever release so the key wasn't needed.
 
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rasen58 said:
If I built up static in me and then touch a doorknob and get shocked, am I then sufficiently grounded to be able to touch electrical components?
Or was it just that the extra electrons were discharged and I should still ground myself in another way before touching electrical components?
You feel a jolt as there's a rapid sharing of electrons, but this doesn't necessarily mean you end up at zero volts. There is nothing in the building code that says all door knobs are to be solidly grounded. It just takes a metal body at a significantly different potential for you to feel a jolt as charge transfers. Besides, what is ground potential for you and the carpet may not be the ground for the electronic circuit you are contemplating handling. Before touching a delicate component you need to be grounded to that circuit's ground.
 
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NascentOxygen said:
you need to be grounded to that circuit's ground.
Excellent point. I wasn't aware of that. (I don't mess with electronics.)
 
You and your work's ground must be at the same potential. Use a grounding leash with a current limiting resistor in series.
 
Keep in mind too, just because you don't feel a shock or later detect a failure of the circuit does not mean you have not damaged it too.
This of course depends on the properties of the electronics you're working on.
 
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rasen58 said:
If I built up static in me and then touch a doorknob and get shocked, am I then sufficiently grounded to be able to touch electrical components?
Or was it just that the extra electrons were discharged and I should still ground myself in another way before touching electrical components?

No.

If you can build up a static charge in the first place then you aren't really sufficiently earthed to be certain you won't damage electronic components.

Any damage caused may not be immediately obvious either. It might only affect the life expectancy of the device. eg it might work fine now but die young.
 

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