Does Newtonian gravity bend light?

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The forum discussion centers on the bending of light by gravity, specifically comparing Newtonian gravity and Einstein's General Relativity (G.R.). Einstein's prediction of 1.7 seconds of arc deflection during a solar eclipse is attributed to both Newtonian gravitational attraction and the curvature of space. Participants debate whether Newtonian theory can predict light bending, concluding that while Newton's equations suggest light could be affected, they do not account for the massless nature of photons. The discussion highlights the distinction between classical mechanics and relativistic physics in understanding light's behavior in gravitational fields.

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  • #31
re: needing more than the stress-energy tensor

In GR, the stress-energy tensor is the density of energy and momentum. It is somewhat similar to the charge density in E&M. In E&M, one can interpret the "source" of electromagnetism as a scalar, charge, which has a density given by a rank-1 tensor, the four-current.

In GR, one can interpret the "source" of gravity as energy and momentum (a four-vector) which has a density given by a rank-2 tensor, the stress-energy tensor.

Thus the four-current, multipled by a vector representing a volume, gives the charge density (a scalar) contained in that volume in E&M. The stress-energy tensor, a rank 2 tensor, mutliplied by a vector representing a volume, gives the energy-momentum (a four-vector) contained in that volume.

In order to solve either E&M, one needs more than the distribution of charge. One also needs additional boundary conditions. E&M is linear, so that one can add any homogeneous solution of Maxwell's equations to an inhomogenoeous solution, and the result will still be a solution of Maxwell's equations. In E&M, it's usually more convenient to deal with the electromagnetic potential rather than the fields. In terms of the potential, one talks for instance about the solution to Poisson's equations (in a region where there is charge) or Laplace's equation (in a region that is charge free), but one needs boundary conditions, for instance Direchlett boundary conditions (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boundary_condition) to specify a unique solution.

Gravity is not linear, so it's not as simple as it is for E&M, but one still needs both the stress-energy tensor AND the boundary conditions. Just knowing the source distribution is not enough. A common boundary conditions in E&M is "zero potential at infinity", in gravity a rougly similar assumption is "asymptotically flat space-time" which says that the metric "at infinity" is Minkowskian. The metric coefficeints g_ij obey second order differential equations in GR, so they are formally similar to the potentials in E&M, which also obey second order differential equations. Thus specifying the metric at infintiy is very similar to specfiying the E&M potential at infinity.
 
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  • #32
pervect said:
Gravity is not linear, so it's not as simple as it is for E&M, but one still needs both the stress-energy tensor AND the boundary conditions.
And these boundary conditions are part of the Weyl tensor right?
 

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