Does Non-Commutativity Explain Quantum Mechanics' Core Principles?

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The discussion centers on the mathematical implications of non-commutative operators in quantum mechanics (QM), particularly focusing on the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle (HUP). The user explores the relationship between position and momentum operators, demonstrating their non-commutative nature through various mathematical expressions. Key points include the derivation of the commutation relation [x, p] = iħ, emphasizing the significance of wave functions in this context. The conversation also touches on the potential for alternative formulations of QM that do not rely on wave assumptions.

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I am trying to get a few fundamental concepts sorted out in my mind associated with the maths of non-commutative operators and the physical implications on QM. As such, I am simply looking for confirmation, clarification or corrections to any of the following issues.

One of the most fundamental issues in QM appears to be the Heisenberg Uncertainty principle (HUP). In mathematical terms this often seems to be described in terms of the non-commutative nature of position [x] and momentum [p]. However, before addressing this specific case, I wanted to first confirm my ‘basic’ understanding of operators in a generic example, where [A] and are both operators, while [Q] is some quantity on which they operate:

[1] \hat A = x; \hat B = \frac {d}{dx};

\left[ \hat A, \hat B \right]Q = \hat A \left (\hat B Q \right) = x \frac {dQ}{dx} = xQ’

\left[ \hat B, \hat A \right]Q = \hat B \left (\hat A Q \right) = \frac {d(xQ)}{dx} = x \frac {dQ}{dx} + Q \frac {dx}{dx} = xQ’ + Q

The operators work from left to right, such that the result of [A,B]Q is different from [B,A]Q as [1] tries to illustrate. It is also highlighted that the expansion of the [B,A] case, in [1], is linked to the differentiation product rule:

[2] \frac {d(uv)}{dx} = u \frac {dv}{dx} + v \frac {du}{dx}

\frac {d(xQ)}{dx} = x \frac {dQ}{dx} + Q \frac {dx}{dx}

If we now use the normal non-commutative expansion, we get a non-zero result:

[3] \left[ \hat A, \hat B \right]Q = \left [AB – BA \right]Q = x \frac {dQ}{dx} - \left( \frac {d(xQ)}{dx} \right)

= x \frac {dQ}{dx} - \left(x \frac {dQ}{dx} + Q \frac {dx}{dx} \right) = -Q

What [1,2,3] seems to illustrate is that the non-commutative property stems from operator being defined in terms of a first derivative, which in itself has nothing to do with quantum mechanics, i.e. the idea of quantization. Of course, the idea of non-commutative operators seem to be important to QM, because the momentum operator [p] can be described in terms of [d/dx], if we derive its form from a wave function, e.g.

[4] \psi = e^{ 2 \pi i \left ( \frac {x}{\lambda} - \omega t \right)} = e^{ i \left( \kappa x - \omega t \right)} = e^{ \frac {i}{\hbar} \left( px - Et \right) }

\frac {\partial \psi}{\partial x} = \frac {ip}{\hbar} e^{ \frac {i}{\hbar} \left( px - Et \right) } = \frac {ip}{\hbar} \psi

\hat p = \frac {1}{i} \hbar \frac {\partial }{\partial x} = -i \hbar \frac {\partial }{\partial x}

Therefore, if we replace [A,B]Q for [x,p]Ψ in [1,2,3] we get:

[5] \left[ \hat x, \hat p \right] \psi = \left [xp – px \right]\psi = x \left( -i \hbar \frac {\partial}{ \partial x} \right) \psi - \left( -i \hbar \frac {\partial}{ \partial x} \right) x\psi

= x \left( -i \hbar \right) \frac {\partial \psi}{ \partial x} - \left( -i \hbar \right) \left( x \frac {\partial \psi}{ \partial x} + \psi \frac {\partial x}{\partial x} \right) = -i \hbar \psi

\left[ \hat x, \hat p \right] = i \hbar

So my first real question is whether the logic above is basically correct? My next question then relates to the wave-particle duality issues. The reason we appear to end up with the non-commutative result in [5] seems to be predicated on the wave nature defined in [4]? As such, is the wave nature fundamentally more descriptive of the ‘true’ nature of quantum ‘particles’? Is there an equivalent approach that can come to the same non-commutative result without any wave assumption? For example, it is assumed that Heisenberg came to his conclusion about HUP based on his own matrix formulation, however I don’t really know if this approach still has a basic wave assumption built into the matrix formulation? Thanks
 
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mysearch said:
I I wanted to first confirm my ‘basic’ understanding of operators in a generic example, where [A] and are both operators, while [Q] is some quantity on which they operate:

[1] \hat A = x; \hat B = \frac {d}{dx};

\left[ \hat A, \hat B \right]Q = \hat A \left (\hat B Q \right) = x \frac {dQ}{dx} = xQ’

So my first real question is whether the logic above is basically correct?


Your notation is somewhat strange. You should use \psi in placce of Q which is the standard typographical distinction in QM for wave functions your operators act on. And you should write (AB)\psi=A(b\psi) and not use $[A,B]$ as the latter denotes a commutator and means AB-BA. This will improve communication with the rest of the world.
 

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