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- Does atmospheric pressure affect the equilibrium vapor pressure of water vapor? What about partial pressure, and what about relative humidity?
I'm wondering if I'm on the right track and if anyone is willing to steer me on if not:
Equilibrium vapor pressure (EVP—also referred to as saturation vapor pressure) is dependent only on temperature. Outside pressure has no bearing.
Now, of course, with lower external pressure (atmospheric), water will boil at lower temperatures. This led me to initially believe that EVP is affected by pressure. At the extreme, a vacuum would cause total and near instantaneous phase transition to vapor. Therefore it must be that the EVP has been severely lowered.
Maybe not. The EVP of water hasn't changed, it's simply that the outside pressure has been reduced to—or below—that pressure.
Thought experiment: Imagine a sealed container with water in it. Then imagine pulling a perfect vacuum in that container. If the container is large enough, all water will evaporate (boil) and fill the space with water vapor at some pressure below the EVP (for that temperature). If the container is small enough, however, evaporation can cause the space to reach the EVP and this vapor pressure will cause equilibrium to be reached while some liquid water remains. So it would essentially boil until the vacuum was filled by enough vapor to reach EVP, at which point any remaining liquid water would stay as such.
Hopefully I'm sort of on track.
One final question assuming the above is true: Does pressure affect relative humidity?
Relative humidity is the partial vapor pressure / EVP. And if it's true that pressure does not affect EVP, then the only way it would is if it affects partial pressure. The factors that affect partial pressure elude me. It seems like its just a function of a dynamic state that hasn't reached equilibrium.
At the extreme, it would seem that if you lower the pressure enough to cause boiling, you would have increased the likelihood of a fully saturated state. If this extreme applies on a scale prior to boiling point, then lowering pressure would be likely to increase partial pressures and hence RH at a given temperature. Not sure about this...
Equilibrium vapor pressure (EVP—also referred to as saturation vapor pressure) is dependent only on temperature. Outside pressure has no bearing.
Now, of course, with lower external pressure (atmospheric), water will boil at lower temperatures. This led me to initially believe that EVP is affected by pressure. At the extreme, a vacuum would cause total and near instantaneous phase transition to vapor. Therefore it must be that the EVP has been severely lowered.
Maybe not. The EVP of water hasn't changed, it's simply that the outside pressure has been reduced to—or below—that pressure.
Thought experiment: Imagine a sealed container with water in it. Then imagine pulling a perfect vacuum in that container. If the container is large enough, all water will evaporate (boil) and fill the space with water vapor at some pressure below the EVP (for that temperature). If the container is small enough, however, evaporation can cause the space to reach the EVP and this vapor pressure will cause equilibrium to be reached while some liquid water remains. So it would essentially boil until the vacuum was filled by enough vapor to reach EVP, at which point any remaining liquid water would stay as such.
Hopefully I'm sort of on track.
One final question assuming the above is true: Does pressure affect relative humidity?
Relative humidity is the partial vapor pressure / EVP. And if it's true that pressure does not affect EVP, then the only way it would is if it affects partial pressure. The factors that affect partial pressure elude me. It seems like its just a function of a dynamic state that hasn't reached equilibrium.
At the extreme, it would seem that if you lower the pressure enough to cause boiling, you would have increased the likelihood of a fully saturated state. If this extreme applies on a scale prior to boiling point, then lowering pressure would be likely to increase partial pressures and hence RH at a given temperature. Not sure about this...