Does School Name Really Matter for Joe Student?

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Discussion Overview

This discussion centers around the importance of school name and reputation in relation to obtaining an electrical engineering degree. Participants explore the implications of attending a prestigious university versus a state school, particularly in the context of personal experience and career prospects.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses significant stress over choosing between transferring to San Francisco State University or waiting to apply to more prestigious schools like UC Berkeley or Stanford, questioning the real-world impact of the school name on career outcomes.
  • Another participant suggests that acceptance to prestigious schools is uncertain and recommends considering other UC schools, such as UC San Diego, which has a strong engineering program and does not require Linear Algebra for admission.
  • A later reply emphasizes that a degree from San Francisco State University could be more valuable than a lower-tier degree from a prestigious institution, although this claim is met with clarification about the grading systems in the U.S. versus the UK.
  • Further responses clarify that in the U.S., degrees are not classified into "first class" or "second class," and that achieving good grades is crucial regardless of the institution's name.
  • Participants discuss the balance between attending a prestigious university and the necessity of maintaining good academic performance, suggesting that grades may hold more weight than the institution's reputation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the importance of school name versus academic performance. There are competing views regarding the implications of attending prestigious universities versus state schools, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying assumptions about the impact of school reputation on career success, and there are unresolved points regarding the definitions of degree classifications and their relevance in the U.S. educational context.

What kind of engineering degree did you get?

  • Prestigious ( Stanford, Georgia, OSU, etc..

    Votes: 2 50.0%
  • Public (Any old accredited state college)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Private. (still abet accredited)

    Votes: 1 25.0%
  • Dropout (steve jobs type, programmer...)

    Votes: 1 25.0%

  • Total voters
    4
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School names matter!?

I need help bad. I'm stuck in the college mentality and I'm hoping someone can snap me out of it. I'm so stressed about which school i should get into that it's eating my time up studying physics. Here's my situation. I'm ready to transfer to San Francisco State University this Spring 2014. Although, I really want to put my app in at UC Berkeley or Stanford but they require all the way up to Linear Algebra to even be considered for admission. The timing of my life led me to finish everything except Linear Algebra, including all my Gen Ed at a weird time of year (70+ credits already with 3.78 gpa). That means if I want a "prestigious name" school, I need to wait until next fall, to be eligible to apply for the NEXT fall 2015!. That puts me graduating about 2017!. All because I wanted to wait for a hotshot school that may or may not even let me in.
OR...I am already accepted to SFSU and begin this spring, roll right into my upper level classes right along with my oddly timed semester of Linear Algebra and graduate sometime by the end of 2015.

My main point... Does it really matter in the real world where I get my electrical engineering degree? I already have 15 years experience as an electronics tech, and prior military with a good record and security clearances. I just want someone to tell me that it doesn't matter, and that i should quit fussing about and go to an average state school like thousands of other people do every year. But, if you are positive that the delay for a chance at UCBerkeley or Stanford is worth it, let me know with some numbers. Real world examples and stuff! (i.e. $$, girls, respect..) Thanks in advance.

Joe Student
 
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You don't even know if you'd be . accepted at those schools, waitlisted... ect. The other UC schools may be an option too. UC san Diego has a well represented engineering department and don't require linear be done first, though it's recommended. You should apply for next fall.
 
publicboolean said:
I need help bad. I'm stuck in the college mentality and I'm hoping someone can snap me out of it. I'm so stressed about which school i should get into that it's eating my time up studying physics. Here's my situation. I'm ready to transfer to San Francisco State University this Spring 2014. Although, I really want to put my app in at UC Berkeley or Stanford but they require all the way up to Linear Algebra to even be considered for admission. The timing of my life led me to finish everything except Linear Algebra, including all my Gen Ed at a weird time of year (70+ credits already with 3.78 gpa). That means if I want a "prestigious name" school, I need to wait until next fall, to be eligible to apply for the NEXT fall 2015!. That puts me graduating about 2017!. All because I wanted to wait for a hotshot school that may or may not even let me in.
OR...I am already accepted to SFSU and begin this spring, roll right into my upper level classes right along with my oddly timed semester of Linear Algebra and graduate sometime by the end of 2015.

My main point... Does it really matter in the real world where I get my electrical engineering degree? I already have 15 years experience as an electronics tech, and prior military with a good record and security clearances. I just want someone to tell me that it doesn't matter, and that i should quit fussing about and go to an average state school like thousands of other people do every year. But, if you are positive that the delay for a chance at UCBerkeley or Stanford is worth it, let me know with some numbers. Real world examples and stuff! (i.e. $$, girls, respect..) Thanks in advance.

Joe Student

It is true that a degree from UC Berkeley sounds impressive but I can guarantee you that a first class degree from San Francisco is better than a second class degree from anywhere.
 
San Francisco is in the United States, where there are not "first class" and "second class" degrees. That's a UK thing.
 
I'm aware of where San Francisco is, my presumption being that you don't just "graduate", there's a form of grading system.
 
Yes, but in the US it is a continuous thing. We don't bin things into classes. In any event, that's not what you said.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
Yes, but in the US it is a continuous thing. We don't bin things into classes. In any event, that's not what you said.

I'm not sure what you mean by this.

In any case, if my post was unclear what I intended to convey was that it's all well and good getting into a prestigious university but you've also got to achieve good grades. Getting good grades is better than the name of the establishment, within reason.
 

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