Does the Definite Integral Equal Zero for a Continuous Function?

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The discussion centers on whether a continuous function f defined on R can be zero for all x, given that the absolute value of its definite integral over any closed interval [m, n] is less than or equal to (n-m)². Participants explore the implications of continuity and the fundamental theorem of calculus, noting that if f is non-zero at any point, it must be positive over some interval, leading to a contradiction with the integral condition. The conversation highlights the need for a rigorous proof to show that f(x) must indeed equal zero everywhere on R. Overall, the conclusion drawn is that the conditions provided imply f(x) = 0 for all x in R.
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Let f : R to R be a continuous function, and suppose that definite integral from m to n |∫(m to n)f(x)dx|≤(n-m)^2 for every closed bounded interval [m, n] in R. Then is it the case that f(x) = 0 for all x in R?

I tried using fundamental theorem of calculus but got stuck, since I only got that F'(x)=f(x)≤ 0.

Any help/suggestion would be appreciated.
 
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Why do you think f(x) would be 0? Doesn't make much sense.
 
If f is non-zero at a point a then there exists some b, K > 0 s.t. f(x) > K for all x in [a-b,a+b]. Can you finish the proof?
 
xAxis said:
Why do you think f(x) would be 0? Doesn't make much sense.

At first I thought it was wrong, so was trying to find a counterexample. But I saw this question in a book asks to show that f(x)=0 for all x in R, which means it should be true. I was using Mean Value theorem and fundamental theorem of calc but I am not really heading anywhere with those.

Thanks and any further help will be appreciated!
 
deluks917 said:
If f is non-zero at a point a then there exists some b, K > 0 s.t. f(x) > K for all x in [a-b,a+b]. Can you finish the proof?

I guess I don't really get what this means (are you using the sing-change property of continuity?). I am really stuck!

Thanks
 
mike1988 said:
I guess I don't really get what this means (are you using the sing-change property of continuity?). I am really stuck!

Thanks


Using continuity of f is that the condition is fulfilled, so \,f(x)>K \,\,\forall\,x\in [a-b,a+b]\Longrightarrow \int_{a-b}^{a+b}f(x)dx>K\int_{a-b}^{a+b}dx = 2Kb Can you see now how to finish with a contradiction?

DonAntonio
 
note also if 0<b<c then f(x) >K on [a-c,a+c].
 

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