Does the sequence \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{n^n}{(2n)!} converge or diverge?

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The discussion revolves around the convergence or divergence of the series \(\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{n^n}{(2n)!}\). Participants are exploring concepts related to sequences and series, particularly focusing on the application of the ratio test.

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  • Participants discuss the use of the ratio test to determine convergence, with some questioning the correctness of their setup and calculations. There are attempts to clarify the general term and its implications for the limit. Questions arise regarding the handling of factorials and the behavior of limits as \(n\) approaches infinity.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback and corrections to each other's reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the factorial terms and their impact on the limit. Multiple interpretations of the series' behavior are being explored, and there is a recognition of potential errors in previous calculations.

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Participants express uncertainty about the application of the ratio test and the handling of factorials in their calculations. There is acknowledgment of missing factors that could influence the outcome of the convergence test.

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Homework Statement



[tex]\infty\sum[/tex][tex]\frac{n^n}{(2n)!}[/tex]
n=1

First of all sorry for the bad attempt to replicate the problem digitally, but i hope you get the general idea. :)

I just started learning sequences and i encountered this problem and I am not exactly sure how to solve it.

The Attempt at a Solution


Here is the attempt:

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/215/captureco.jpg http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/2450/captureyr.jpg

So i think i tried to use the "ratio test" (not sure how its called in english), to test if the limit is > or < than 1.

When i got so far i have no clue what to do next, so i`m assuming i`m going in the wrong direction. Maybe the ratio test isn't the one to use here.

Any tips ?


Thanks in advance.
 
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battery2004 said:

Homework Statement



[tex]\infty\sum[/tex][tex]\frac{n^n}{(2n)!}[/tex]
n=1

First of all sorry for the bad attempt to replicate the problem digitally, but i hope you get the general idea. :)

I just started learning sequences and i encountered this problem and I am not exactly sure how to solve it.

The Attempt at a Solution


Here is the attempt:

http://www2.wolframalpha.com/Calculate/MSP/MSP2711984dca15f31i99c000012i9fafb1e3dc4fb?MSPStoreType=image/gif&s=9http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/2450/captureyr.jpg

So i think i tried to use the "ratio test" (not sure how its called in english), to test if the limit is > or < than 1.
The first two things in your "equation" above are not equal. I think you mean that the first is the sum itself and the next is the ratio. Please don't write "=" between things that are not equal!
Since the general term is [itex]a_n= n n^n/(2n)![/itex], [itex]a_{n+1}/a_n= ((n+1)(n+1)^{n+1}/(2n+2)!)/(n n^n/(2n)!)[/itex][itex]= ((n+1)(n+1)^{n+1}/(2n)!)((2n)!/(n n^n)[/itex].

Separate those as [itex][(n+1)/n ][(n+1)^{n+1}/n^n][(2n)!/(2n+2)!][/itex].

(n+1)/n clearly goes to 1 and (2n)!/(2n+2)!= (2n)!/((2n)!(2n+1)(2n+1)= 1/(2n+1)(2n+2) goes to 0 "quadratically" so the real question is about whether [itex](n+1)^{n+1}/n^n[/itex] goes to infinity and, if so, how fast. [itex](n+1)^{n+1}= (n+1)^n(n+1)[/itex] so we are looking at [itex]\left((n+1)/n\right)^n (n+1)[/itex]. Does that go to infinity and, if so, how fast?

When i got so far i have no clue what to do next, so i`m assuming i`m going in the wrong direction. Maybe the ratio test isn't the one to use here.

Any tips ?


Thanks in advance.
 
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Thank you for the quick response, i didn't mean to write that the first two things were equal it just happened to be the easiest way to write. :)

One question - why did you write that the general term is (n*n^n)/(2n)!, shouldn't it be (n^n)/(2n)! ?

Well i thought of this way:
We write this limit
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/2450/captureyr.jpg
as
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/899/capturesm.jpg

then we divide it like :

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/8123/capturepn.jpg which is = 1/2

and http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/323/capturelx.jpg = http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/997/captureue.jpg = goes to 1.

(i didn't write the lim's in front.)

So in the end 1 * 1/2 = 1/2 and 1/2 < 1 so => the sequence converges.

Edit: Could someone confirm this ?
 
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hmmmm.. not sure if you missed it but as Halls pointed out:

in your ratio, when:
[tex]n \rightarrow n+1[/tex]

the the factorial becomes
[tex](2n)! \rightarrow (2(n+1))! = (2n+2)![/tex]
 
[tex](n+1)^2=n^2+2n+1[/tex] but if the exponent is not 2, then the expansion has many more terms.Instead, write [tex]\frac{(n+1)^n}{n^n}}=\left(\frac{n+1}{n}\right)^n=\left(1+\frac{1}{n}\right)^n[/tex] and then this has a famous limit.
 
lanedance said:
hmmmm.. not sure if you missed it but as Halls pointed out:

in your ratio, when:
[tex]n \rightarrow n+1[/tex]

the the factorial becomes
[tex](2n)! \rightarrow (2(n+1))! = (2n+2)![/tex]

Thanks for pointing that out, yes i missed that. But the good thing is that it doesn't affect the outcome. It`s still 1/2.

And thanks Billy Bob.

So that means:
[tex] \frac{(n+1)^n}{n^n}}=\left(\frac{n+1}{n}\right)^n= \left(1+\frac{1}{n}\right)^n = e[/tex]

Ahh and then it means that 1/2 * e = e/2 and e/2 > 1 and it means that it diverges. Though according to the book the answer is that it converges.

Seems that i have missed something else.

Damn this is frustrating.
 
have you included the extra n factor the revised factorial gives you into account in your ratio?

if it really did go to C before, now it should be something like C/n...
 
I was wrong after all.

As lanedance pointed out i get [tex](2n)! \rightarrow (2(n+1))! = (2n+2)![/tex] instead of [tex](2n)! \rightarrow (2n+1)![/tex], and this is quite a huge deal.

So in the end i get [tex]1/(2n+2)(2n+1)[/tex] which is [tex](1/(2n+2))*(1/2n+1)[/tex] and both of these goes to 0.

So i get 1/2 * e * 0 * 0 = 0 and 0 < 1 and that means that it converges.

This forum is awesome, thanks guys. ;)
 

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