Does the Series Converge for Different Values of p and q?

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The discussion revolves around the convergence or divergence of the series ## \sum \frac{1}{n^{p}ln^{q}(n)} ## for various real numbers p and q. Participants are exploring the implications of different values of p and q on the behavior of the series.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are considering different cases for p and q, questioning whether they should be treated as covering the same set of numbers or if separate ranges need to be examined. There is also discussion about the implications of specific values such as p=q=1 and how they might serve as boundary cases.

Discussion Status

Some participants have suggested that the series converges for p, q > 1 and diverges for p, q ≤ 1, while others are probing further into the cases where p and q might fall into different ranges. There is an ongoing exploration of the conditions under which the series behaves differently.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the lack of explicit guidance from the professor regarding which values of p and q to consider, leading to uncertainty about the necessary cases to analyze. The complexity of the problem is acknowledged, particularly with the potential for numerous cases based on the values of p and q.

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Homework Statement



Show for what real numbers p and q ## \sum \frac{1}{n^{p}ln^{q}(n)} ## diverges or converges.

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I am kind of lost because it seems that with both subscripts p and q there are a bunch of cases you have to work through. My professor wasn't explicit in regards to what values p and q we had to consider.

My number 1 question would be: do you consider p and q covering the same set of numbers? Such as p>1 and q>1? Or do you have to also consider 0<p<1 while q>1 as well? It just seems this would take forever.

Anyways I think I have a solution for p,q > 1


## \frac{1}{n^{p}ln^{q}(n)} ## ≤ ## \frac{1}{n^{p}} ## for all n ≥ 3

since ## \frac{1}{n^{p}} ## converges (p > 1) by comparison test ## \sum \frac{1}{n^{p}ln^{q}(n)} ## converges for p,q > 1
 
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You can extend your comparison test more, what if q=0 and p>1 for example?

In general you are going to have to consider p and q being any number - there aren't that many actual different cases though
 
## \frac{1}{n^{p}ln^{q}(n)} \geq \frac{1}{nln(n)} ## for 0 ≤ p,q ≤ 1.

and ## \frac{1}{nln(n)} ## is divergent by the integral test, thus ## \frac{1}{n^{p}ln^{q}(n)} ## diverges by comparison.

Now if p,q < 0 then ## \sum \frac{1}{n^{p}ln^{q}(n)} ## becomes ## \sum n^{p}ln^{q}(n) ##

which clearly diverges.

Ok, so all of this together we have the series converging for p,q > 1 and diverging for p,q ≤ 1. So are the other cases I need to check are ones with p and q being in these two different ranges respectively? ie p ≤ 1 and q > 1 and vice versa?
 
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You saw that p,q=1 is a sort of boundary value. Then it's worthwhile to investigate it deeper.

You could check what happens if you hold still p=1 and change q, then q=1 and vary p.
 

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