Does the series f_n(x)= x^n/1 + x^n converge on the interval [0,1]?

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The discussion centers around the convergence of the series defined by f_n(x) = x^n / (1 + x^n) on the interval [0, 1]. Participants explore various aspects of convergence, including specific values of x and the behavior of the series as n approaches infinity.

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  • Some participants question whether the series converges at x = 1, noting that f_n(1) is constant and does not decrease as n increases.
  • Others clarify that the term "series" may be misused and suggest that the discussion might be more about the convergence of a sequence rather than an infinite sum.
  • It is noted that for x = 0, the sequence converges to 0, while for x = 1, it converges to 1, raising questions about the convergence of the infinite series.
  • Some participants propose using the integral test to analyze convergence for x < 1, suggesting that the series converges in this case.
  • Another participant suggests applying the ratio test and comparison test, concluding that the series converges for x in [0, 1) and diverges for x ≥ 1.
  • There is mention of the alternating series test for negative values of x, indicating that the series converges for x in (-1, 0).
  • One participant summarizes that for |x| < 1, the series converges to 0, while for |x| > 1, it converges to 1.

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Participants express differing views on the convergence of the series at specific points, particularly at x = 1, and whether the term "series" is appropriately used. There is no consensus on the overall convergence behavior across the entire interval [0, 1].

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Some discussions involve assumptions about the definitions of sequences versus series, and the implications of convergence based on the behavior of terms as n increases. The application of various convergence tests introduces additional complexity that remains unresolved.

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[tex]f_n(x)= x^n/1 + x^n[/tex]

does this series converge on the interval [0,1]
Say if x = 1 then the series is < some epslon , where epslon is > 0
but if x = 1 then the value for [tex]f_n(x)[/tex] is constant for all n
but does this still mean the series converges.. even tho the series doesn't get smaller for large values of n...
if not then it doesn't converge?
 
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read what you posted one more time... your answer is in there somewhere :wink:
 
Pearce_09 said:
[tex]f_n(x)= x^n/1 + x^n[/tex]
does this series converge on the interval [0,1]
Say if x = 1 then the series is < some epslon , where epslon is > 0
but if x = 1 then the value for [tex]f_n(x)[/tex] is constant for all n
but does this still mean the series converges.. even tho the series doesn't get smaller for large values of n...
if not then it doesn't converge?
I assume you mean [itex]f_n(x)= \frac{x^n}{1+ x^n}[/itex] since otherwise (i.e. if you mean [itex]f_n(x)= 2x^n[/itex]) I see no reason for the "1". Also It's not clear whether you mean a "sequence" rather than "series" (which is an infinite sum) since you say "even tho the series doesn't get smaller for large values of n". A sequence doesn't have to "get smaller", just get closer to (or be) a number (an infinites series does not converge it the sequence does not go to 0). fn(0)= 0 for all n and the "constant" sequence 0 certainly converges to 0 (and the infinite sum is also 0!). fn(1)= 1 for all n so the sequence "converges" to 1 but that means that the infinite series [itex]\sum f_n(1)[/itex] does not converge. For x any number between 0 and 1, we can divide both numerator and denominator by xn to get [itex]\frac{1}{1+\frac{1}{x^n}}[/itex]. That sequence also converges to 0 so the series may converge. Since these are all positive values, we can apply the integral test: The series [itex]\sum \frac{x^n}{1+ x^n}[/itex] will converge if and only if the infinite integral [itex]\int_1^\infty \frac{x^y}{1+ x^y} dy[/itex] converges (for 0< x< 1). To integrate that, let u= 1+ xy. Then du= ln(x) xy so
[tex]\int_1^\infty \frac{x^y}{1+ x^y} dy= \frac{1}{ln x}\int_{1+x}^1\frac{du}{u}= -\frac{ln(1+x)}{ln(x)}[/tex]
Okay, that exists (and is positive since x< 1), and so the series converges for all x< 1.
The sequence of functions converges to the discontinuous (at 0) function f(x)= 0 for 0<= x< 1, f(1)= 1.
The series converges on [0, 1).
 
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It's much easier to apply the ratio or comparison test.
Let [itex]s_n = \sum_{n=0}^\infty f_n(x)[/itex]
Obviously sn diverges for x>=1 since fn converges to 1 for x=1 and diverges for x>1. Thus we are only concerned with abs(x)<1. Note that each term fn in sn is positive for all x>0 and that the terms alternate in sign for x<0.

Ratio test: Each term in sn is positive for all x>0.
sn is a convergent series if [itex]f_{n+1}(x)/f_n(x) < 1[/itex] for all sufficiently large f. The ratio converges to x for x<1, so sn is convergent for [itex]x\in [0,1)[/itex].

Comparison test: The series [itex]\sum_{n=0}^\infty x^n[/itex] converges for all x in (-1,1). For all x>0, each term [itex]f_n(x) = \frac{x^n}{1+x^n}[/itex] is smaller than [itex]f_n(x) = x^n[/itex]. Thus sn is convergent for [itex]x\in [0,1)[/itex].

Alternating series test: The sequence [itex]\frac{\lvert x^n\rvert}{1+x^n}[/itex] is monotonically deceasing for [itex]x\in(-1,0)[/itex] and some sufficiently large n. Thus the alternating series \sum_{n=0}^\infty f_n(x), x\in(-1,0)[/itex] is convergent.
 
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Pearce_09 said:
[tex]f_n(x)= x^n/1 + x^n[/tex]
does this series converge on the interval [0,1]
Say if x = 1 then the series is < some epslon , where epslon is > 0
but if x = 1 then the value for [tex]f_n(x)[/tex] is constant for all n
but does this still mean the series converges.. even tho the series doesn't get smaller for large values of n...
if not then it doesn't converge?

It looks easy...

If [tex]|x| < 1[/tex] it obviously converges to 0.

If [tex]x = 1[/tex] it is always [tex]1/2[/tex].

If [tex]x = -1[/tex] it doesn't converge, considering [tex]n[/tex] can take odd values.

If [tex]|x| > 1,[/tex] [tex]f_n(x)=x^n/(1+x^n) = 1/(1/x^n+1)[/tex], so it converges to 1.
 
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