Does the Spring Continue to Stretch Indefinitely Beyond the Elastic Limit?

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of a spring when subjected to forces beyond its elastic limit, specifically questioning whether the spring continues to stretch indefinitely or reaches a point where it behaves differently, such as becoming a straight wire.

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the graphical representation of a spring's behavior beyond the elastic limit, questioning the interpretation of the mark scheme regarding indefinite stretching.

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Participants are exploring interpretations of the spring's behavior after the elastic limit, with some suggesting that the spring may stretch significantly beyond Hooke's law, while others agree on the potential for the spring to unravel. There is no explicit consensus on the graphical representation being discussed.

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The original poster references a mark scheme that suggests indefinite stretching, which raises questions about the assumptions underlying the problem and the intended interpretation of the spring's behavior.

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Its question 1 A (III) I don't understand.

I have included a copy of the question paper and the mark scheme.

I understand the continuation of the straight line up to 800N however after does the line curve like the blue / red one on my diagram?

I would have thought it should have leveled off at a constant length as after the spring is past the elastic limit it will only stretch so far before it turns into a straight bit of wire?

The mark scheme would suggest that the spring should continue to stretch to infinity as more weights are added?

Thanks
Al
 

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Once past the elastic limit the spring may stretch way more than per Hooke's law. And it won't return to it's unstretched length once the weight is removed. You are correct, of course, that at some point the spring may unravel and be nothing but a straight wire. I don't think they intend for the graph to go that far.
 
Doc Al said:
Once past the elastic limit the spring may stretch way more than per Hooke's law. And it won't return to it's unstretched length once the weight is removed. You are correct, of course, that at some point the spring may unravel and be nothing but a straight wire. I don't think they intend for the graph to go that far.

So its the Red curve then?
 
rollcast said:
So its the Red curve then?
Yes, that's what I would say.
 

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