Does Using a Ramp Reduce the Work Needed to Move Objects?

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The discussion revolves around the mechanics of using a ramp to move heavy objects, specifically addressing how a ramp influences the work and force involved in the process. Participants are exploring the implications of mechanical advantage and the relationship between force, distance, and work in a physics context.

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  • Participants are questioning the phrasing of the original question and its implications on the understanding of work and force. Some express confusion about the correct answer and seek clarification on why their reasoning was deemed incorrect. Others discuss the nature of mechanical advantage and the role of ramps in physics.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing differing perspectives on the mechanics of ramps. Some have offered insights into the nature of work and force, while others are questioning the assumptions behind the original question. There is no explicit consensus, but various interpretations are being explored.

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Participants note potential ambiguities in the wording of the question and consider factors such as friction and the specific arrangement of the ramp that may affect the discussion. The original poster's confusion about the correct answer highlights the need for clarity in understanding the principles involved.

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If one were asked, "How does a ramp make it easier to move a heavy object a certain distance?" Would you answer with
a. by changing the direction in which the object move
b. by decreasing the amount of work required to move the object
c. by decreasing the distance the object moves
d. by decreasing the amount of force required to move the object

I said "Decreasing the amount of force required to move the object" but it's incorrect. The correct answer is B, "Decreasing the amount of work required to move the object"
Can someone explain to me why my first answer was wrong?

Thanks,
-Mally
 
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It's a crap question, to me. A ramp increases the mechanical advantage that aids you in doing whatever you're doing. That is why a screw is such an engineering marvel... it's an endless ramp. It does come down to work, but it doesn't make it easier; it merely spreads it over time. No matter what mechanism is involved, you are never going to get off easily. You can't violate Thermodynamics.
 
I'd say your answer is correct. The purpose of a ramp is allow you to raise a heavy object using less force than you would if you just lifted it directly. The work done is the same.

I'd also say that moving a heavy object 'a certain distance' is ambiguous wording. The point is to lift the object, not just move it some distance.
 
missmallyb said:
If one were asked, "How does a ramp make it easier to move a heavy object a certain distance?" Would you answer with
a. by changing the direction in which the object move
b. by decreasing the amount of work required to move the object
c. by decreasing the distance the object moves
d. by decreasing the amount of force required to move the object

I said "Decreasing the amount of force required to move the object" but it's incorrect. The correct answer is B, "Decreasing the amount of work required to move the object"
Can someone explain to me why my first answer was wrong?

Thanks,
-Mally

I would have answered the same as you. The ramp let's you use less force, but applied over a longer distance compared to straight lifting the object.

Is there a figure that goes with this question? I wonder if the ramp arrangement that they have in mind is different in some way. Are they talking about the work to lift an object up some height, and is the ramp assumed to be frictionless?
 

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