Does your understanding of Quantum mechanics complete

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the completeness of understanding quantum mechanics after initial coursework, particularly at the undergraduate level. Participants explore the depth of knowledge required for various applications and the impact of different teaching materials on comprehension.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Debate/contested, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that an undergraduate course may provide only a partial understanding of quantum mechanics, estimating it around 55% completeness.
  • Others argue that a graduate course is necessary to deepen understanding, implying that a single undergraduate course is insufficient.
  • A participant reflects on the paradox of needing more advanced courses if the undergraduate course were truly complete.
  • One contributor notes that their understanding has diminished over time, suggesting that quantum mechanics is complex and may lead to feelings of confusion even after years of study.
  • There is a mention of the influence of different textbooks on understanding, with some suggesting that certain texts may lead to better comprehension than others.
  • A participant shares their experience in graduate quantum mechanics, indicating that understanding develops gradually and encourages persistence in studying the subject.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the completeness of understanding quantum mechanics after undergraduate study, with no consensus on whether a single course is sufficient. There are competing perspectives on the impact of different teaching materials and the nature of learning in this complex field.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference varying levels of understanding based on personal experiences and the influence of different educational resources, indicating that comprehension may depend on multiple factors including course structure and individual study habits.

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... after you've taken your first undergrad course in quantum mechanics? Or does it take years , perhaps even well after you've earned your pHd in physics , for your understanding of the basic and advanced principles of quantum mechanics to be complete? Too hard to tell for me, but if I only paid attention to how my professor teaches quantum mechanics and not fully sought after any other QM book that presents QM in a entirely different fashion from the way the professor presents it, my understanding of QM would not be compete even if I passed my professor's class.
 
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noblegas said:
if I only paid attention to how my professor teaches quantum mechanics and not fully sought after any other QM book that presents QM in a entirely different fashion from the way the professor presents it, my understanding of QM would not be compete even if I passed my professor's class.

This true of many things, not just quantum mechanics.
 
Hmm, that's an interesing question. My best guess is that if you normalize to 1 being "perfect" understanding, then an undergrad course will put you at about .55. This is usually good enough if you're doing research that isn't heavily quantum mechanical, but which may once in awhile refer to it (i.e. particle astrophysics, biophysics, etc.) A year of graduate quantum will put that up at .75, which I think is enough to read papers that are quantum-heavy. This is usually a good idea if you're in high energy or (especially) condensed matter.

Of course, I'm taking field theory right now, and I feel like I'm back down to .05. So maybe something is wrong with my model.
 
If a one-semester undergraduate course in QM gave a complete understanding of the subject, why would graduate students have to take two semesters of it? :confused:
 
It's been close to two decades since I took my first quantum mechanics class, and it's one of those things that the more I learn about it, the less I think I really understand it.
 
depends which book your class is taught from.

those who read from Cohen-Tannoudji are better off than those who read from griffiths
 
I'm halfway through my first semester of graduate QM and only now are things starting to come together a little bit.It takes a while, but don't let that deter you from continuing your study of the subject. It's well worth it!
 

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