Domains of Rational Functions (standard notation)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around identifying the domain of a rational function and expressing it in standard notation. Participants explore different notations and conventions for writing domains, particularly focusing on the example of the function (x-2) / (x^2 - 2x - 35).

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on how to express the domain of the function in standard notation, noting that the denominator cannot equal zero.
  • Another participant suggests using set notation to express the domain as {x | x<-5 U -5
  • Some participants propose using interval notation, specifically (-∞, -5) ∪ (-5, 7) ∪ (7, ∞), as a more concise representation of the domain.
  • A participant critiques the use of "U" in the set notation, arguing that it is more appropriate for sets rather than algebraic expressions, and offers alternative notations.
  • There is a correction regarding an inequality notation, with one participant pointing out a potential typo in the expression presented by another.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of using parentheses around the numerator and denominator to avoid misinterpretation of the expression.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriate notation for the domain, with no consensus reached on a single preferred method. There is also a correction regarding the representation of inequalities, indicating some level of disagreement on notation conventions.

Contextual Notes

Some notations proposed may depend on specific conventions or contexts, and there are unresolved issues regarding the clarity of expressions and the proper use of symbols in mathematical notation.

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Im preparing for a CLEP test in precalculus. As part of my prep, I need to review identifying domains of functions. I have a question about writing domains in standard notation. I was hoping someone could explain a bit the style.

For an example:

x-2 / x^2 -2x -35

As a rational expression, I know that the denominator can not be equal to zero. Therefore, to find the domain, I set the denominator equal to zero and solved the quadratic:

x = 7
x = -5

When x is either of these 2 values, the denominator will equal 0, and the expression is undefined. How would I write the domain in standard notation? I realize that the domain is all real numbers excluding -5 and 7, but is there a tidy way to write this?

Thanks.
 
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{x | x<-5 U -5<x<7 U 7<x }

The domain is the union of the open intervals of x less than negative 5, x is greater negative 5 than but less than 7, and x is greater than 7.
 
You could use interval notation.

<br /> (-\infty, -5) \cup (-5,7) \cup (7,\infty)<br />
 
symbolipoint said:
{x | x<-5 U -5<x<7 U 7<x }

The domain is the union of the open intervals of x less than negative 5, x is greater negative 5 than but less than 7, and x is greater than 7.
I would NOT write it that way since the "U" notation is used for sets, not algebraic expressions. Either
\{x | x&gt;-5 or -5&lt;x&lt; 7 or 7&lt; x\}
or
\{x | x\ne -5 and x\ne 7\}
or
\{x| x&lt; -5\}\cup \{x| -5&lt; x&lt; 7\}\cup \{x| x&gt; 7\}
 
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I've never seen

<br /> -5 &lt; x &gt; 7<br />

considered a proper inequality: I believe Halls has a typo and that center piece
should be \{x | -5 &lt; x &lt; 7 \}.
 
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Thanks, I have corrected it. (And will now pretend I never wrote such a silly thing!)
 
Shafty said:
For an example:

x-2 / x^2 -2x -35
As a side note, an expression such as this written on a single line should be written with parentheses around the numerator and denominator, like so:
(x-2) / (x^2 -2x -35)

Under the order of operations, the expression as you wrote it would be interpreted to mean
x - (2/x2) - 2x - 35, which I'm sure isn't what you really meant.
 

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