Dose our life deserve these efforts we pay ?

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The discussion centers around the philosophical question of whether the efforts we put into life are justified, given the inevitability of death. Participants explore themes of meaning, purpose, and the human condition, touching on personal experiences, societal issues, and existential reflections.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that life is about the journey rather than the destination, implying that the efforts we make can contribute to personal fulfillment.
  • Others express skepticism about the value of effort in life, questioning whether it is worth it to exert energy when death is the ultimate outcome.
  • A participant reflects on the nature of human existence, discussing themes of greed, vanity, and the search for meaning amidst suffering.
  • Concerns are raised about the fairness of life circumstances, particularly in relation to suffering in different parts of the world, such as Africa.
  • Some argue that individuals should focus on living their lives in a way that brings them joy, rather than worrying excessively about existential questions.
  • There are suggestions that helping others might provide a sense of purpose and meaning in life.
  • A few participants express frustration with the focus on existential worries, advocating for a more self-centered approach to living.
  • One participant highlights the biological perspective of life, suggesting that enjoyment and reproduction are natural instincts.
  • Another participant acknowledges the complexity of the discussion, indicating a balance between trying to make a difference and accepting the limitations of one's ability to solve larger problems.
  • Concerns about grammar and communication arise, with some participants questioning the ability of those posing big questions to articulate them clearly.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus; multiple competing views remain regarding the value of effort in life and the best approach to existential concerns. Some advocate for a focus on personal enjoyment, while others emphasize the importance of helping those in need.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying assumptions about the nature of life, death, and the meaning of existence, with some relying on personal anecdotes and others referencing broader societal issues. The discussion reflects a range of perspectives without resolving the underlying philosophical questions.

  • #31
...would life be truly worth living if that was all you had to deal with and remmember every day, knowing that there is no end or reason to it all and that all you have to, likely, look forward to after it, is simply the eventual death of you and those close to you.
I think you may be watching too much TV - that's not meant to be trite .These people still have lives; it's not all flies and starvation.
 
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  • #32
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2000/aids/stories/overview/"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/2449527.stm"


I was exaggerating somewhat, but it is still very bad.
-scott
 
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  • #33
scott_alexsk said:
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2000/aids/stories/overview/"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/2449527.stm"


I was exaggerating somewhat, but it is still very bad.
-scott
Yes, but the jist of your post is that it is so bad that, if not for belief in God, they would have no reason to live. That is a statement that can't simply be handwaved.
 
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  • #34
http://www.wwrn.org/article.php?idd=20928&sec=20&con=58"

Here is an article on Christian expansion in Africa. Look around, Islam is expanding at a similar rate.

I ask you if these people were satisfied with the state of their lives why would they be converting at such huge rates. If their lives are so fine why do they feel the need to probe another religion to see if they can get a better life out of it? They are searching. They are seeking relief in religion. If you take that away from them and tell them it is not going to make a difference and that there is a high likelyhood that things are going to stay the same way they are, how do you think they are going to react? They're not going to simply brush it off like its nothing, you are changing their entire perspective of the world and on the meaning of life. If they did not need religion why would they pursue it?

-scott
 
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