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Dose our life deserve these efforts we pay ?

  1. Aug 29, 2006 #1
    Does our life deserve these efforts we pay ?

    Hi,,, everyone:biggrin:

    This is my first subject at your forum which is really attracted me specially

    that it contain twice science and general subjects.

    I wondered with which subject to start and in which forum departement

    and i decided to start here and to start with a general and important

    question...............Does our life deserve these efforts we pay ?:confused:

    lots of us start his day working and end it too, we live starting as child

    and ended by death, during our life we have wars, peace, love and hate

    and regardless what our life looks like , the end is the same.....DEATH

    Hope to take this subject seriously, why to live ?

    is 70 - to 80 years along interval ?

    does this deserve killing:surprised , hating:mad: , wars:devil: , ...etc

    waiting ur replies:wink:
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  3. Aug 29, 2006 #2


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    Our lives are what we make them. Life is about the journey, not the destination.
  4. Aug 29, 2006 #3
    I'm having a hard time compressing the opening post down to an easily grasped question but I think it might be: "Is it worth it to exert much effort in life when, no matter what effort, or how much effort, you exert, everyone dies at the end.

    If that is correct, then I agree with Dave's answer.
  5. Aug 29, 2006 #4

    really your reply is very deep and complex, first thanks...

    second, my objective from this subject is to ask how can i feel that life

    with all events it contain have a real mean ?

    and does putting aims and objectives to reach during life is really

    effective- as some people say-?

    also what religions tells about a nother final life after death ?

    I need your opinion friends......
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    I will never understand why so many people worry about stuff like this and don't just try to live their life in a way that is best for them. To me they waste their entire life worrying if they are wasting their life. :rolleyes:

    There was a book "Don't sweat the small stuff, and it's all small stuff, Simple ways to keep the little things from taking over your life". Maybe you should read it.


    I don't waste my time reading that kind of thing, but sounds like you might like it.
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    We do make those efforts to make a more enjoyable life. At least I can't enjoy my life if I think I'm wasting my time and energy.
    Oh I also agree with Dave and Zoobie(:!!) ).
  8. Aug 29, 2006 #7

    Thanks Evo for your advice...

    well,,, i agree with u. i hate thinking about these things but when i saw

    what kind of suffer people face in different area of this earth such as

    those in africa. i really ask my self what prevented me to be one of those

    who dont find food to eat or one of those die every day by diseases.

    do u agree with me?

    why not us ?

    who has the choice and is that fair ?
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    Has it occurred to you that, during this short, perhaps wasted life you have been given, you might put it to good use by helping those suffering people in Africa?

    Perhaps you are not the one who stands to benefit from your life. Perhaps there are others who stand to benefit from your life.
  10. Aug 29, 2006 #9
    heh, who the hack care what happens beond the sea.
    we care more for ourself more than anything, and this is how it should be. just live your life, be kind to those near you.
    its painful to see hadicapts in the hospital indeed, but we tend to not care too much anyway.

    people die, and suffer, but if ull try to absorb other's misery its pretty much recking your life... as long as things are far from the eye, normally you wouldnt care, by nature. dont make yourself suffer, when you can avoid suffering...
  11. Aug 29, 2006 #10
    Well, what are your options?
    To die instead of giving it a try?
    Or seize the opportunity given to you?

    Children starving in Africa is indeed a terrible problem, but look it from this point of view - They don't have the opportunity to do something, you do, but if you don't - you'll realize this one day and regret it. I believe it's worse to regret something that could've been instead of missing something that wasn't your's for the taking.

    If you look at from a biological view, it's to mate as much as possible and spread your seed. So, instead of doing math and physics :wink: go out and shag as many women as possible :smile: In other words enjoy yourself, nothing lasts forever!
  12. Aug 30, 2006 #11
    I see what's bothering you now, and it bothers me as well.

    My reaction is to waver back and forth between Dave and Evo's positions: try to do something about it when possible and try not to worry about the fact you can never completely solve this problem.
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    Why do people who ask the big questions never have a grasp of grammar or punctuation?
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    Who? What? When? How?

    As far as life's concerned: death's always going to be there.

    There are loads of ways to enjoy life though.

    Some people like to earn and save loads of money; working to afford a future lifestyle. Whereas, some people enjoy to spend what they get day to day.

    I prefer the second approach. Enjoy the moment.

    Work to live, don't live to work.

    Other efforts?

    In an academic setting, yes the efforts are worth it. My work (although only limited people will read/use it) will outlive me. That's quite cool, and worth the effort.
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    Funny thing about the World Wide Web, is that it really is "World Wide".

    *Insert Americano-centric bashing remark here*

  16. Aug 30, 2006 #15

    Do u mean my language :confused: ?

    well,,, :uhh: the true is that english language is my second language.

    Sorry if there are some mistakes, but the objective to give the experssion

    correctly and depending on others replies, I think that i gave the meanings

    i want.

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    It's just that when some people start philosophising in a first post, it can seem like a long rant.

    Sometimes it seems that the post hasn't been reread, before submitting, to see if it makes sense or not. (And it can't be that hard to capitalise the start of sentences.)
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    Don't apologize. We look beyond spelling.
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    Well, there are common times that a great many people worry about their lives, and I don't think there is anything wrong with that. Still, if the worry becomes overpowering (and that happens a lot too), then obviously it can be harmful.

    My philosophy has always been that if I like where I am now and am on a good path (sometimes that's the same thing), I'm good. The problem a lot of people have is they don't know what path they want to be on or are on the wrong path or worry about their progress on that path. Then the combined hits of fear of stagnation and fear of change become paralyzing. I guess then it really all is about control - the key is believing you have control over your life and acting accordingly.

    Still, the one thing you can't control is time, which is why people have midlife crises - but then the solution is what you just said: distract yourself by living and don't sweat the small stuff.
  20. Sep 1, 2006 #19
    Thanks for your replies friends...

    well,, I took from you some of what i want from this subject or post.

    but their still a nother point???

    it is sure that all of you know lots about religions, specially islam,

    Christians and Jews which tell that there is a nother life after death

    and it depend on this life and how we act in it.

    do you think that this can give our life a nother taste ?

    Waiting your opinions....
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    Well, as someone said: it can be argued that atheists are the most moral of people, since they must develop their own internal reasons for being "good people", rather than because of reward or punishment.

    Atheists choose to be good because they determine that it is the right thing to do, not because someone or something tells them that they should (even if they're told that 'it is the right thing to do').

    "Character is who you are in the dark." (translation: your character determines how you act when no one is lookiing and you can't get caught). Atheists are never being watched, therefore their actions are the most sincere.

    Those who decide that someone else is in charge of right and wrong, are passing the buck - they are abdicating personal responsibility.

    Or so it can be argued.

    Wait - what was the question? :rolleyes:
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